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From: Mark Jonas <mark.jonas@freescale.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: AW: [U-Boot-Users] LITE5200 board: Bus Fault with 2 network cards
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:47:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40F3939C.2080300@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DE2CC66C40EAB74EA6D66AC71BF98E1E016AF3C4@TQ-MAILSRV-1>

Martin Krause wrote:

>>Is there a known issue with the PCI on the MPC5200, and more specifically
>>with PCI network cards ?
>>    
>>
>
>I also have problems with some PCI cards. Some are recognized, some not. I haven't found an explanation, yet. I guess it has something to do with some "3.3 V compatible" cards are not really compatible with 3.3 V only systems. It could as well be an errata in the MPC5200 described in the MPC5200 Errata Listing: 
>
>ID 322: Violation of PCI Tval min time
>
>The PCI Timing Speci?cation de?nes the timing parameter Tval (CLK to Signal Valid Delay):
>  Tval min 2 ns, max 11 ns (33MHz)
>  Tval min 2 ns, max 6 ns (66MHz)
>  When M66EN is asserted, the minimum speci?cation for Tval(min) may be reduced to 1 ns if a mechanism is provided to guarantee a minimum value of 2 ns when M66EN is deasserted.
>MPC5200 provides Tval min of 1 ns (instead of 2 ns), which is a violation of the
>Timing Speci?cation for 33MHz.
>  
>
Yes, some cards are not detected because of this errata. Please note 
that this only happens if the card / chipset used is also not PCI timing 
spec compliant. A compliant card / chipset needs to be able to handle 0 
ns Tval(min). And some cards say "3.3 V compatible" but they aren't 
because either 3.3 V is simply not enough or they do nasty things like 
shortening the 5 V and 3.3 V power supply. That's always worth a check 
before inserting the card in a 3.3 V / 5 V system.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-13  7:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-13  7:00 AW: [U-Boot-Users] LITE5200 board: Bus Fault with 2 network cards Martin Krause
2004-07-13  7:47 ` Mark Jonas [this message]
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2004-07-13  7:15 Reinhard Meyer

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