[U-Boot-Users] Problem starting u-boot on Xilinx V2P

[U-Boot-Users] Problem starting u-boot on Xilinx V2P

[Thorsten Lueck]

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Hi,

I have a own board with an Virtex V2Pro (V2P30) an want to boot u-boot
on the PPC.
Starting from the demo-design for the ml300 demo board, I managed to
compile u-boot 1.1.1 (1.1.2 fails when running the tcl-script with EDK
7.1) and could download and run u-boot on my PPC. However, u-boot stops
after printing

U-Boot 1.1.1 (Jul  5 2005 - 16:50:28)


### No HW ID - assuming ML300
DRAM:  128 MB


I get no further output afterwards. Another strange thing is, that I
only have 32MB RAM on board but not 128MB as the ml300 has. However, I
could not find any hardcoded RAM size in the source files for the ml300.

Does anybody has an idea? I found the comment :

/*
 * WARNING: this code looks "cleaner" than the PowerPC version, but
 * has the disadvantage that you either get nothing, or everything.
 * On PowerPC, you might see "DRAM: " before the system hangs - which
 * gives a simple yet clear indication which part of the
 * initialization if failing.
 */


in the ./lib_i386/board.c, however, there is no appropriate warning in
static int init_func_ram (void)
of ./lib_ppc/board.c

Thanks in advance,

Thorsten L?ck
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[U-Boot-Users] Problem starting u-boot on Xilinx V2P

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <42CAACB0.50101@IfEN.com> you wrote:
> 
> I have a own board with an Virtex V2Pro (V2P30) an want to boot u-boot
> on the PPC.
> Starting from the demo-design for the ml300 demo board, I managed to
> compile u-boot 1.1.1 (1.1.2 fails when running the tcl-script with EDK
> 7.1) and could download and run u-boot on my PPC. However, u-boot stops
> after printing

You cannot just use a configuration for one board and  expect  it  to
work on a different board.

Ummm... well, actually you _can_ do that, but you should be  prepared
to fail.

> ### No HW ID - assuming ML300
> DRAM:  128 MB

Seems your SDRAM initialization is misconfigured and/or broken.

> I get no further output afterwards. Another strange thing is, that I
> only have 32MB RAM on board but not 128MB as the ml300 has. However, I
> could not find any hardcoded RAM size in the source files for the ml300.
> 
> Does anybody has an idea? I found the comment :

You missed to port U-Boot to your hardware. Go back to square 0. Read
the README (porting guide section) and do what needs to be done.

> in the ./lib_i386/board.c, however, there is no appropriate warning in

What has the x86 code to do with that? [Nothing!]

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot-Users] Problem starting u-boot on Xilinx V2P

[Thorsten Lueck]

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Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> You cannot just use a configuration for one board and  expect  it  to
> work on a different board.

My board is not as different to ml300 as one may think - indeed, it uses
the same Virtex2Pro FPGA with nearly the same configuration (wrt. UART,
I2C, EMAC). Therefore using ml300 as a starting point for my design
really makes sense. Of course I used the BSP compiled for my board using
Xilinx EDK 7.1

> You missed to port U-Boot to your hardware. Go back to square 0. Read
> the README (porting guide section) and do what needs to be done.
Well - I _did_ port it (in the sense of using the appropriate BSP) -
however, I modified ML300 source instead of creating a new
board-directory ...

> 
>>in the ./lib_i386/board.c, however, there is no appropriate warning in
> 
> What has the x86 code to do with that? [Nothing!]
Well - nothing - your are right - instead of the comment, that the
PowerPC code may hang immediatley _after_ "DRAM:" printout. This led me
to the assumption, that my problem may be well known ...


Best regards,

Thorsten

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[U-Boot-Users] Problem starting u-boot on Xilinx V2P

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <42CB7E35.8090805@IfEN.com> you wrote:
>
> My board is not as different to ml300 as one may think - indeed, it uses

Even minimal diffeences can have significant effects.  Feel  free  to
ignore  my advice, but please don't complain if you run into problems
later.

> > You missed to port U-Boot to your hardware. Go back to square 0. Read
> > the README (porting guide section) and do what needs to be done.
> Well - I _did_ port it (in the sense of using the appropriate BSP) -

No, you did not. For example, you missed to adapt the SDRAM initialization.

> PowerPC code may hang immediatley _after_ "DRAM:" printout. This led me
> to the assumption, that my problem may be well known ...

It is. It is actually a FAQ.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
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enjoy it today you can do it again tomorrow.

[U-Boot-Users] Problem starting u-boot on Xilinx V2P

[Thorsten Lueck]

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Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> In message <42CB7E35.8090805@IfEN.com> you wrote:
>>My board is not as different to ml300 as one may think - indeed, it uses
> 
> Even minimal diffeences can have significant effects.  Feel  free  to
> ignore  my advice, but please don't complain if you run into problems
> later.
> 
>>>You missed to port U-Boot to your hardware. Go back to square 0. Read
>>>the README (porting guide section) and do what needs to be done.
>>Well - I _did_ port it (in the sense of using the appropriate BSP) -
> 
> No, you did not. For example, you missed to adapt the SDRAM initialization.
> 
>>PowerPC code may hang immediatley _after_ "DRAM:" printout. This led me
>>to the assumption, that my problem may be well known ...
> 
> It is. It is actually a FAQ.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Wolfgang Denk
> 

Whatsoever - I started using Xilinx application note XAPP542, which
advised to start using ml300 design and generate a new BSP using EDK.
Unfortunately the DRAM size was hardcoded in the board driver source
ml300.c instead of using (the available) hash-defines. I fixed this and
can therefore provide a patch if wanted.

I realized, that the uboot-1.1.1 version supplied by Xilinx within the
attachment of XAPP542 is not identical to the original version. Several
patches and improvements has been made by Xilinx, which I cannot find in
the acutal source (even 1.1.2 or cvs; indeed, 1.1.2 and cvs are almost
the same for the xilinx board support package).

One problem when using EDK is, that variables within the tcl-script
uboot_v2_1_0.tcl are declared "global" instead of "variable", which
leads to errors of "unknown variables" in EDK. Xilinx fixed this to
"variable" in their distributed version. Are there any reasons (wrt
ELDK) why to use "global" instead of "variable"?

However, it seems, that the Xilinx version runs almost well (after some
minor adoptations).

Thanks for your help and worthwhile hints,

Thorsten



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[U-Boot-Users] Problem starting u-boot on Xilinx V2P

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <42CBF5BA.5040409@IfEN.com> you wrote:
> 
> Whatsoever - I started using Xilinx application note XAPP542, which
> advised to start using ml300 design and generate a new BSP using EDK.
> Unfortunately the DRAM size was hardcoded in the board driver source
> ml300.c instead of using (the available) hash-defines. I fixed this and
> can therefore provide a patch if wanted.

Please do. But BTW: no matter if your hard-code a  number  or  use  a
preprocessor  define  -  both  ways  are  a poor solution and not the
original U-Boot style you should  strive  for.  Normally  you  shoult
auto-detect  the  type  and  size  of memory in your system using the
get_ram_size() function [in common/memsize.c].

> I realized, that the uboot-1.1.1 version supplied by Xilinx within the
> attachment of XAPP542 is not identical to the original version. Several
> patches and improvements has been made by Xilinx, which I cannot find in
> the acutal source (even 1.1.2 or cvs; indeed, 1.1.2 and cvs are almost
> the same for the xilinx board support package).

We live with what we get contributed back...

> One problem when using EDK is, that variables within the tcl-script
> uboot_v2_1_0.tcl are declared "global" instead of "variable", which
> leads to errors of "unknown variables" in EDK. Xilinx fixed this to
> "variable" in their distributed version. Are there any reasons (wrt
> ELDK) why to use "global" instead of "variable"?

Is this a typo? Our ELDK has nothing to do with this. From the U-Boot
code point of view (which is ANSI C) I have  not  the  faintest  idea
what "variable" or "global" means.


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Antwort: [U-Boot-Users] Problem starting u-boot on Xilinx V2P

[andreas_schmidt at ifm-electronic.com]

Hi

How Wolfgang says its the best that you at first read the README file for better
understanding.
But you find the config for RAM
/board/xilinx/ml300/ml300.c
this functions name is initdram(int board_type)

hope could help you

best regards



                                                                                          
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Hi,

I have a own board with an Virtex V2Pro (V2P30) an want to boot u-boot
on the PPC.
Starting from the demo-design for the ml300 demo board, I managed to
compile u-boot 1.1.1 (1.1.2 fails when running the tcl-script with EDK
7.1) and could download and run u-boot on my PPC. However, u-boot stops
after printing

U-Boot 1.1.1 (Jul  5 2005 - 16:50:28)


### No HW ID - assuming ML300
DRAM:  128 MB


I get no further output afterwards. Another strange thing is, that I
only have 32MB RAM on board but not 128MB as the ml300 has. However, I
could not find any hardcoded RAM size in the source files for the ml300.

Does anybody has an idea? I found the comment :

/*
 * WARNING: this code looks "cleaner" than the PowerPC version, but
 * has the disadvantage that you either get nothing, or everything.
 * On PowerPC, you might see "DRAM: " before the system hangs - which
 * gives a simple yet clear indication which part of the
 * initialization if failing.
 */


in the ./lib_i386/board.c, however, there is no appropriate warning in
static int init_func_ram (void)
of ./lib_ppc/board.c

Thanks in advance,

Thorsten L?ck
- --
IfEN - Gesellschaft f?r Satellitennavigation mbH

  Dipl. Ing. Thorsten L?ck
  Tel.:  +49 8121 2238-25
  Fax :  +49 8121 2238-11
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[U-Boot-Users] Problem starting u-boot on Xilinx V2P

[Thorsten Lueck]

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Cedric VINCENT wrote:

>>Another strange thing is, that I
>>only have 32MB RAM on board but not 128MB as the ml300 has. However, I
>>could not find any hardcoded RAM size in the source files for the ml300.
> 
> Take a look into board/xilinx/ml300/ml300.c, it *is* hardcoded !

Indeed - that was the problem - I greped for the size (in hex and dec)
but _not_ for a formular ;-)


> As Wolgang said, "you cannot just use a configuration for one board
> and expect it  to work on a different board". But if you change your
> config file and U-Boot still hangs after "Now running in RAM at ....."
> (don't forget to #define DEBUG) it may be a U-Boot incompatibility
> with some (new) version of GCC. If so, please mail me !
Well, probably I can - changing the size to the real size (which is 32MB
instead of 128) - u-boot boots up to the prompt. Probably some memory
test addressed memory above 32MB. So it works now.
Regarding the version of gcc, I use
ppc_405-gcc (GCC) 3.3.1 (MontaVista 3.3.1-3.0.10.0300532 2003-12-24)

Thanks for your helpfull hint!

Best regards,

Thorsten L?ck

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