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From: Ulf Samuelsson <ulf@atmel.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks.
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:55:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45BEEBDD.9060705@atmel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45BE95C6.8090809@comcast.net>

J. William Campbell skrev:
> Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
>
>   
>>> If it can be decided that the only devices that will be supported by the 
>>> memory commands in cmd_mem.c are those devices that can be read directly 
>>> as ram without a read routine, I think that would help clarify the 
>>> intent of the commands.
>>>  
>>>    
>>>
>>>       
>> Why limit to "read".
>> Why not say that any memory which can be read or *written* without a driver
>> will be supported by the cmd_mem.c ?
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>     
> There are at least two very good reasons why adding the "written" 
> constraint is not practical: First, as he has stated several times in 
> this thread, Mr. Denk believes that users regard NOR flash as just like 
> ram and therefore expect ram commands to work on it. This point of view 
> certainly has merit, and while we may not all totally agree with it, it 
> is, and must be, Mr. Denk's u-boot. He is the final determining person 
> on what will be accepted.
>   
Dataflash users regard dataflash as just like RAM
even though all commands are not implemented.
> The second, and perhaps even better reason to not remove NOR flash from 
> the memory commands is that it will break just about 100% of all 
> existing u-boot configurations. Ok, maybe it's 95%, but its real large. 
> This doesn't even take into account how many README files out there 
> describe copying things into flash with the cp command. This type of 
> support is not going away for these reasons.
>   
So you are happy with only breaking 100% of all dataflash based
configurations?
> My main goal in this thread is to create/keep the "read" constraint 
> intact so that we don't have constant additions of #ifdefs  to the 
> cmd_mem.c to support any arbitrary non-memory bus devices that people 
> decide they want to use like memory, or that if we were going to do that 
> we would create a way to do it that didn't result in an #ifdef maze.  
> Mr. Denk has solved this concern on my part. We aren't going to add 
> devices that require read routines.
>
> Best Regards,
> Bill Campbell
>
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-01-30  6:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-26 16:45 [U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks Peter.Pearse
2007-01-26 19:11 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 21:25   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 22:34     ` Grant Likely
2007-01-27  0:42       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-27  1:52         ` Grant Likely
2007-01-27  4:11           ` [U-Boot-Users] Arm-linux-gcc malloc get failure while arm-elf-gcc ok Rui.Zhou at nokia.com
2007-01-27 11:46             ` Rui.Zhou at nokia.com
2007-01-27 13:34           ` [U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-27 16:36             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-27 17:04               ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-27 17:17                 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-28 14:39                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29  1:32                   ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-29 12:52                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-27 22:19     ` Grant Likely
2007-01-28  1:47       ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-28 15:17         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-28 22:21           ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-28 22:50             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29  2:50               ` Grant Likely
2007-01-29 13:07                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 21:06                   ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-01-29 22:57                     ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 23:55                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30  0:28                       ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-01-30  1:03                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30  1:16                           ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-01-30 22:23                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30  6:52                         ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31  7:44                     ` Tolunay Orkun
2007-01-29  3:17               ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-29  7:35                 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 13:36                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 13:29                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 20:45                   ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-29 21:48                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 23:03                       ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-30  0:01                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 23:08                   ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-30  0:48                     ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-30  1:06                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30  6:55                       ` Ulf Samuelsson [this message]
2007-01-31 17:11                   ` Grant Likely
2007-01-31 17:37                     ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31 21:55                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-31 23:13                         ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31 23:50                           ` Grant Likely
2007-02-01  0:06                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-02-01  2:46                             ` Tolunay Orkun
2007-01-29 11:10               ` Stefan Roese
2007-01-29  2:27         ` Grant Likely
2007-01-28 15:01       ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29  2:33         ` Grant Likely
2007-01-29  7:49           ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 13:38             ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found]             ` <528646bc0701310848x4c63cf53gd228f860c0fd0444@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-31 16:50               ` Grant Likely
2007-02-01 12:40             ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-29 12:56           ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 10:43     ` Stefan Roese
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-26  8:44 Grant Likely
2007-01-26  9:42 ` Peter.Pearse
2007-01-26 13:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 19:24   ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 21:27     ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 22:35       ` Grant Likely
     [not found] ` <000001c7416f$fa61fed0$01c4af0a@atmel.com>
2007-01-26 19:02   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]     ` <02eb01c74180$c4911410$01c4af0a@atmel.com>
2007-01-26 20:27       ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 21:21         ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-26 22:40           ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 23:01             ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-26 23:46               ` Grant Likely
2007-01-27  9:44                 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 10:49               ` Stefan Roese
2007-01-29 13:44         ` Peter.Pearse
2007-01-29 14:47           ` Stefan Roese
2007-01-29 16:03             ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 10:33     ` Stefan Roese

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