From: Ulf Samuelsson <ulf@atmel.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks.
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 07:55:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45BEEBDD.9060705@atmel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45BE95C6.8090809@comcast.net>
J. William Campbell skrev:
> Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
>
>
>>> If it can be decided that the only devices that will be supported by the
>>> memory commands in cmd_mem.c are those devices that can be read directly
>>> as ram without a read routine, I think that would help clarify the
>>> intent of the commands.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Why limit to "read".
>> Why not say that any memory which can be read or *written* without a driver
>> will be supported by the cmd_mem.c ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> There are at least two very good reasons why adding the "written"
> constraint is not practical: First, as he has stated several times in
> this thread, Mr. Denk believes that users regard NOR flash as just like
> ram and therefore expect ram commands to work on it. This point of view
> certainly has merit, and while we may not all totally agree with it, it
> is, and must be, Mr. Denk's u-boot. He is the final determining person
> on what will be accepted.
>
Dataflash users regard dataflash as just like RAM
even though all commands are not implemented.
> The second, and perhaps even better reason to not remove NOR flash from
> the memory commands is that it will break just about 100% of all
> existing u-boot configurations. Ok, maybe it's 95%, but its real large.
> This doesn't even take into account how many README files out there
> describe copying things into flash with the cp command. This type of
> support is not going away for these reasons.
>
So you are happy with only breaking 100% of all dataflash based
configurations?
> My main goal in this thread is to create/keep the "read" constraint
> intact so that we don't have constant additions of #ifdefs to the
> cmd_mem.c to support any arbitrary non-memory bus devices that people
> decide they want to use like memory, or that if we were going to do that
> we would create a way to do it that didn't result in an #ifdef maze.
> Mr. Denk has solved this concern on my part. We aren't going to add
> devices that require read routines.
>
> Best Regards,
> Bill Campbell
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-30 6:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-26 16:45 [U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks Peter.Pearse
2007-01-26 19:11 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 21:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 22:34 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-27 0:42 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-27 1:52 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-27 4:11 ` [U-Boot-Users] Arm-linux-gcc malloc get failure while arm-elf-gcc ok Rui.Zhou at nokia.com
2007-01-27 11:46 ` Rui.Zhou at nokia.com
2007-01-27 13:34 ` [U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-27 16:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-27 17:04 ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-27 17:17 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-28 14:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 1:32 ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-29 12:52 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-27 22:19 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-28 1:47 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-28 15:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-28 22:21 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-28 22:50 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 2:50 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-29 13:07 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 21:06 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-01-29 22:57 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 23:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30 0:28 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-01-30 1:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30 1:16 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2007-01-30 22:23 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30 6:52 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31 7:44 ` Tolunay Orkun
2007-01-29 3:17 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-29 7:35 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 13:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 13:29 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 20:45 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-29 21:48 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 23:03 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-30 0:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 23:08 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-30 0:48 ` J. William Campbell
2007-01-30 1:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-30 6:55 ` Ulf Samuelsson [this message]
2007-01-31 17:11 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-31 17:37 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31 21:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-31 23:13 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-31 23:50 ` Grant Likely
2007-02-01 0:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-02-01 2:46 ` Tolunay Orkun
2007-01-29 11:10 ` Stefan Roese
2007-01-29 2:27 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-28 15:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 2:33 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-29 7:49 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 13:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <528646bc0701310848x4c63cf53gd228f860c0fd0444@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-31 16:50 ` Grant Likely
2007-02-01 12:40 ` Andreas Schweigstill
2007-01-29 12:56 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 10:43 ` Stefan Roese
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-26 8:44 Grant Likely
2007-01-26 9:42 ` Peter.Pearse
2007-01-26 13:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 19:24 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 21:27 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-26 22:35 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <000001c7416f$fa61fed0$01c4af0a@atmel.com>
2007-01-26 19:02 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <02eb01c74180$c4911410$01c4af0a@atmel.com>
2007-01-26 20:27 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 21:21 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-26 22:40 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-26 23:01 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-26 23:46 ` Grant Likely
2007-01-27 9:44 ` Ulf Samuelsson
2007-01-29 10:49 ` Stefan Roese
2007-01-29 13:44 ` Peter.Pearse
2007-01-29 14:47 ` Stefan Roese
2007-01-29 16:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2007-01-29 10:33 ` Stefan Roese
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