From: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] LIBFDT: first version of fdt_find_compatible_node
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:12:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46308920.9020902@grandegger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <463082E6.9060002@gmail.com>
Jerry Van Baren wrote:
> Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
>> Hi Jerry,
>>
>> >Wolfgang Grandegger wrote:
>>>> Jerry Van Baren wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>> Yes, blob parsing will be done from the start of the blob until an
>>>> answer is found every time a question is asked of it. Not a
>>>> paradigm of efficiency. :-/
>>>>
>>>> WRT the cached version, I have doubts about how much time it will
>>>> save since I expect the "find compatible" will only be used during
>>>> initialization. Is it worth optimizing? Really slow memory - yes.
>>>> Fast memory - I doubt it.
>>>> a) I don't picture blobs being stored in really slow memory (no i2c
>>>> memories).
>>>> b) If the memory really is slow, it seems like it would be as good
>>>> or better to copy the blob to RAM and use it out of RAM (but there
>>>> may be chicken & egg problems with that - I don't know how deeply
>>>> you are looking to embed this).
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what board/processor/memory you are ultimately
>>>> targeting with this, so my criticisms may not be valid. I know
>>>> denx.de support(s|ed) some very slow to boot boards that lots of
>>>> tricks were done WRT optimization of env variables because they were
>>>> stored in i2c memory.
>>>
>>> I'm doing that for a MPC823 at 50 MHz, a very low-end system, and
>>> almost to slow for 2.6. I will do some real measurements when time
>>> permits to get a better feeling.
>>
>> Here are the results of some quick measurements on my MPC855 at 80/40
>> MHz with the attached code example and my DTS test file:
>>
>> from FLASH from Memory
>> Non-cached: 11116 us 1703 us
>> Cached : 2800 us 6226 us
>>
>> Well, I think we can drop the cached version even if its 4 times
>> faster, as it make life more difficult, especially in case the FDT
>> gets updated.
>>
>> Wolfgang.
>
> Risk & reward. The reward is pretty substantial if you read directly
> from slow flash, but iffy for faster RAM.
>
> In the "from Memory" column, do you have the numbers switched? The
> non-cached is shown as being 4x faster than the cached.
Yes, a cut & paste error, sorry.
>
> To be a fair comparison, the "from Memory" column also needs the time it
> would take to copy the blob from flash to RAM added, yes? That penalty
> can be bypassed by loading the blob directly into RAM via tftp or the
> copy to RAM time may already be part of the boot process, but it should
> be identified.
Here is the revised list:
from FLASH from Memory
Non-cached: 11116 us 6226 us
Cached : 2800 us 1703 us (2096 us)
The number in brackets is _with_ memcpy. The FDT should normally be
access from memory, I fully agree.
Wolfgang.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-26 11:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-25 8:58 [U-Boot-Users] LIBFDT: first version of fdt_find_compatible_node Wolfgang Grandegger
2007-04-25 15:12 ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-04-25 19:37 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2007-04-25 21:06 ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-04-26 7:39 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2007-04-26 9:42 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2007-04-26 10:45 ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-04-26 11:12 ` Wolfgang Grandegger [this message]
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