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* [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working
@ 2007-05-26  6:27 Vaibhav Hiremath
  2007-05-26 13:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Vaibhav Hiremath @ 2007-05-26  6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi All,


Can anyone tell me how to test loads command?
I have tested loadb and loady command, and they are working fine.
While testing loads uboot console only displays message "Ready for loading
s-record file" but doing nothing.

I think I am testing this command with wrong procedure, I hav used
hyperterminal to test loadb and loady commands.

So please guide me to test this out.


Thanks in advance.

Thanks,
Vaibhav
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* [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working
  2007-05-26  6:27 [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working Vaibhav Hiremath
@ 2007-05-26 13:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
  2007-05-27 19:35   ` Clemens Koller
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2007-05-26 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

In message <fde666620705252327u7d1baaa3mb710cb4ea7276a2b@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me how to test loads command?

The most reliable way is using "cu", see
http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/SystemSetup#Section_4.2.

YOu may have success with other terminal emulation  programs  if  you
adjust  timing correctly, but details are left as an exercise for the
reader. If you just need a working tool, use "cu".

> I think I am testing this command with wrong procedure, I hav used
> hyperterminal to test loadb and loady commands.

Use "cu".

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Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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* [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working
  2007-05-26 13:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2007-05-27 19:35   ` Clemens Koller
  2007-05-27 19:39     ` ksi at koi8.net
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Koller @ 2007-05-27 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi There!

Wolfgang Denk schrieb:
> In message <fde666620705252327u7d1baaa3mb710cb4ea7276a2b@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me how to test loads command?
> 
> The most reliable way is using "cu", see
> http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/SystemSetup#Section_4.2.
> 
> YOu may have success with other terminal emulation  programs  if  you
> adjust  timing correctly, but details are left as an exercise for the
> reader. If you just need a working tool, use "cu".

Well... rpm <foo> just sucks on some machines.
The sources are here:
http://www.airs.com/ian/uucp.html

Greets,

Clemens

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* [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working
  2007-05-27 19:35   ` Clemens Koller
@ 2007-05-27 19:39     ` ksi at koi8.net
  2007-05-27 21:18       ` Clemens Koller
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: ksi at koi8.net @ 2007-05-27 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Sun, 27 May 2007, Clemens Koller wrote:

The most reliable program to work with U-Boot is kermit. It's a shame it was
excluded from Fedora distribution after Core 5 release...

> Hi There!
>
> Wolfgang Denk schrieb:
>> In message
> <fde666620705252327u7d1baaa3mb710cb4ea7276a2b@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
>>> Can anyone tell me how to test loads command?
>>
>> The most reliable way is using "cu", see
>> http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/SystemSetup#Section_4.2.
>>
>> YOu may have success with other terminal emulation  programs  if  you
>> adjust  timing correctly, but details are left as an exercise for the
>> reader. If you just need a working tool, use "cu".
>
> Well... rpm <foo> just sucks on some machines.
> The sources are here:
> http://www.airs.com/ian/uucp.html
>
> Greets,
>
> Clemens
>
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* [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working
  2007-05-27 19:39     ` ksi at koi8.net
@ 2007-05-27 21:18       ` Clemens Koller
  2007-05-27 22:53         ` ksi at koi8.net
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Koller @ 2007-05-27 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi!

> On Sun, 27 May 2007, Clemens Koller wrote:
> The most reliable program to work with U-Boot is kermit. It's a shame it was
> excluded from Fedora distribution after Core 5 release...

Just to make the list complete:
Linux Host:
minicom v2.2
http://alioth.debian.org/projects/minicom/

And for the most proprietary OS:
UTF-8 TeraTerm Pro with TTSSH2
http://sourceforge.jp/projects/ttssh2/
Yes the good old TeraTerm we've used long time
ago with our 300bps Modems is back!

And for monitoring every little detail of your serial port on
Windoze - Mark Russinobich's Portmon:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/portmon.mspx

Uah... ugly link. :-(

Greets,

Clemens Koller
_______________________________
R&D Imaging Devices
Anagramm GmbH
Rupert-Mayer-Str. 45/1
81379 Muenchen
Germany

http://www.anagramm-technology.com
Phone: +49-89-741518-50
Fax: +49-89-741518-19

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* [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working
  2007-05-27 21:18       ` Clemens Koller
@ 2007-05-27 22:53         ` ksi at koi8.net
  2007-05-28 10:08           ` Clemens Koller
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: ksi at koi8.net @ 2007-05-27 22:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Sun, 27 May 2007, Clemens Koller wrote:

> Hi!
>
>> On Sun, 27 May 2007, Clemens Koller wrote:
>> The most reliable program to work with U-Boot is kermit. It's a shame
> it 
>> was
>> excluded from Fedora distribution after Core 5 release...
>
> Just to make the list complete:
> Linux Host:
> minicom v2.2
> http://alioth.debian.org/projects/minicom/

Minicom is crap, sorry for an expression...

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* [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working
  2007-05-27 22:53         ` ksi at koi8.net
@ 2007-05-28 10:08           ` Clemens Koller
  2007-05-29 12:44             ` Jerry Van Baren
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Koller @ 2007-05-28 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi, 

ksi at koi8.net schrieb:
> On Sun, 27 May 2007, Clemens Koller wrote:
>> Just to make the list complete:
>> Linux Host:
>> minicom v2.2
>> http://alioth.debian.org/projects/minicom/
> 
> Minicom is crap, sorry for an expression...

Technically, it works fine. Propably, some don't
like the UI, which has a vi like flavour.
Well... it works for me. YMMV

Greets,

Clemens Koller
_______________________________
R&D Imaging Devices
Anagramm GmbH
Rupert-Mayer-Str. 45/1
81379 Muenchen
Germany

http://www.anagramm-technology.com
Phone: +49-89-741518-50
Fax: +49-89-741518-19

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* [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working
  2007-05-28 10:08           ` Clemens Koller
@ 2007-05-29 12:44             ` Jerry Van Baren
  2007-05-29 12:58               ` Wolfgang Denk
  2007-05-29 13:01               ` [U-Boot-Users] OT: problem with minicom, was: (Re: loads command is not working) Clemens Koller
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jerry Van Baren @ 2007-05-29 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Clemens Koller wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> ksi at koi8.net schrieb:
>> On Sun, 27 May 2007, Clemens Koller wrote:
>>> Just to make the list complete:
>>> Linux Host:
>>> minicom v2.2
>>> http://alioth.debian.org/projects/minicom/
>> Minicom is crap, sorry for an expression...
> 
> Technically, it works fine. Propably, some don't
> like the UI, which has a vi like flavour.
> Well... it works for me. YMMV
> 
> Greets,
> 
> Clemens Koller

The problem is not the interface, the problem is that minicom is 
unreliable.  I actually generally use it as the path of least 
resistance, but occasionally it messes me up.  I have used cu as well 
and should switch, but have not yet.

The typical problem I have with minicom is that the tty port gets messed 
up (baud rate, handshake, etc. is wrong) and minicom cannot recover it. 
  Minicom will tell you it is changing the port configuration (baud 
rate, for instance) and say that the baud rate is what you set it to, 
but it really isn't.  As you can imagine, this is very confusing and 
frustrating when the board you are connecting to appears to only put out 
garbage characters and trying all the common baud rates does not change 
anything.  It looks like there is a serious problem with the development 
board, but actually it is minicom.

Interestingly, I've never had a problem getting kermit to reset the port 
characteristics to a sane setting when this happens, and then minicom 
will behave again, for a while.

Best regards,
gvb

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* [U-Boot-Users] loads command is not working
  2007-05-29 12:44             ` Jerry Van Baren
@ 2007-05-29 12:58               ` Wolfgang Denk
  2007-05-29 13:01               ` [U-Boot-Users] OT: problem with minicom, was: (Re: loads command is not working) Clemens Koller
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2007-05-29 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

In message <465C2027.8080004@smiths-aerospace.com> you wrote:
>
> The problem is not the interface, the problem is that minicom is 
> unreliable.  I actually generally use it as the path of least 
> resistance, but occasionally it messes me up. ...

There is a reason for this section in the manual:
http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/DULG/SystemSetup#Section_4.4.

>                                           ...  I have used cu as well 
> and should switch, but have not yet.

"cu" in probably not what you are looking  for.  I  use  it  only  on
boards  where  I  am stuck with S-Record download (usually to program
U-Boot instead of a proprietary bootloader that suppors only S-Record
download).

> Interestingly, I've never had a problem getting kermit to reset the port 
> characteristics to a sane setting when this happens, and then minicom 
> will behave again, for a while.

kermit is my tool of choice, too.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
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* [U-Boot-Users] OT: problem with minicom, was: (Re:  loads command is not working)
  2007-05-29 12:44             ` Jerry Van Baren
  2007-05-29 12:58               ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2007-05-29 13:01               ` Clemens Koller
  2007-05-29 13:47                 ` Jerry Van Baren
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Koller @ 2007-05-29 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Hi, Jerry

Jerry Van Baren schrieb:
> The typical problem I have with minicom is that the tty port gets messed 
> up (baud rate, handshake, etc. is wrong) and minicom cannot recover it. 
> Minicom will tell you it is changing the port configuration (baud rate, 
> for instance) and say that the baud rate is what you set it to, but it 
> really isn't.

This is a known issue, bug or feature:
http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=301193&group_id=30018&atid=100031

> Interestingly, I've never had a problem getting kermit to reset the port 
> characteristics to a sane setting when this happens, and then minicom 
> will behave again, for a while.

If you ran into a problem which is reproducable, please try to fix
it and/or contact the developers of minicom to get it fixed.

Regards,
-- 
Clemens Koller
__________________________________
R&D Imaging Devices
Anagramm GmbH
Rupert-Mayer-Stra?e 45/1
Linhof Werksgel?nde
D-81379 M?nchen
Tel.089-741518-50
Fax 089-741518-19
http://www.anagramm-technology.com

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* [U-Boot-Users] OT: problem with minicom, was: (Re:  loads command is not working)
  2007-05-29 13:01               ` [U-Boot-Users] OT: problem with minicom, was: (Re: loads command is not working) Clemens Koller
@ 2007-05-29 13:47                 ` Jerry Van Baren
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jerry Van Baren @ 2007-05-29 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Clemens Koller wrote:
> Hi, Jerry
> 
> Jerry Van Baren schrieb:
>> The typical problem I have with minicom is that the tty port gets 
>> messed up (baud rate, handshake, etc. is wrong) and minicom cannot 
>> recover it. Minicom will tell you it is changing the port 
>> configuration (baud rate, for instance) and say that the baud rate is 
>> what you set it to, but it really isn't.
> 
> This is a known issue, bug or feature:
> http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=301193&group_id=30018&atid=100031 

Hi Clemens,

Not exactly.  The above says "Minicom continues to use the original 
value unless you save the setup, then quit and restart minicom."  My 
experience is that changing the baud rate on the fly works, but 
sometimes the port gets into a funky state and minicom "loses control" 
of it.

>> Interestingly, I've never had a problem getting kermit to reset the 
>> port characteristics to a sane setting when this happens, and then 
>> minicom will behave again, for a while.
> 
> If you ran into a problem which is reproducable, please try to fix
> it and/or contact the developers of minicom to get it fixed.
> 
> Regards,

Unfortunately, it is not reliably reproducible.  :-(  Pure speculation 
is that incoming serial (from powering up the attached development 
board) sometimes confuses the port and minicom doesn't use a big enough 
hammer to reset it.

Best regards,
gvb

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2007-05-27 19:39     ` ksi at koi8.net
2007-05-27 21:18       ` Clemens Koller
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