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From: Ben Warren <biggerbadderben@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] Add support for Generic PHY in macb
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:23:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47C36A11.2010204@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080222163403.1b2566ca@dhcp-252-066.norway.atmel.com>

Haavard Skinnemoen wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:05:34 +0100
> Michael Schwingen <rincewind@discworld.dascon.de> wrote:
>
>   
>> Haavard Skinnemoen wrote:
>>     
>>> All MII-capable PHYs should have a working PHYSID1 register. If it
>>> doesn't, something is broken.
>>>   
>>>       
>> It depends - I am not sure if there are PHYs which simply do not 
>> implement MDIO, but at least for ethernet switches, such chips do exist.
>>     
>
> Right. We might need to add support for such PHYs, but just disabling
> the sanity check is far from enough.
>
> In any case, the dm9161a PHY in question does implement MDIO, so it
> really should work without any modifications.
>
>   
>>> So I think the CONFIG_GENERIC_PHY name is misleading -- the test is
>>> generic enough as is. CONFIG_BROKEN_PHY would be better, if there's
>>> really no way to get your PHY to behave.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Right. Or CONFIG_PHY_NO_MDIO or something like that. This is in the 
>> direction of CONFIG_MII_ETHSWITCH which is used eg. by AcTux-2 for this 
>> purpose.
>>     
>
> I think U-Boot needs a common PHY layer like Linux has. IIRC someone
> suggested the same thing some time ago. There's no point going around
> adding the same special-case code to every ethernet driver in the
> tree...
>
>   
Yeah, that's me. I'm working on porting the Linux PHY driver over, but 
have had next to no time in the past few months (had to find a new job 
etc...) I hope to seriously get back into it in the next few days, with 
a goal of the next U-boot release for an initial spin.
>>> But note that if MDIO communication isn't working, autonegotiation
>>> won't work, and the speed and duplex settings will most likely be
>>> wrong. So I don't think simply #ifdefing out that sanity check is
>>> really going to solve any problems.
>>>   
>>>       
>> The chip may do autonegotiation by default, however, the MAC driver 
>> still needs to know about the negotiated speed/duplex, so unless there 
>> is some board-specific way to read those (eg. by GPIO pins), only one 
>> speed/duplex will work and all other modes will be broken. This is 
>> different from the case with the hardwired ethernet switch - in case of 
>> the switch, we know that the MII port is always running at 100Mbps, 
>> full-duplex.
>>     
>
> Hmm...most switches support autonegotiation don't they? If not, what
> happens if you plug in in an old computer with a 10Mbps ethernet board?
>
>   
Some do and some don't. Typically when you connect to a switch via RvMII 
the data rate is set by strap pins or over the control plane, which can 
be MDIO, SPI, or whatever.
> But I guess we need something equivalent to CONFIG_FIXED_PHY in Linux...
>
>   
Yeah
> Haavard
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-02-26  1:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-22 12:27 [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] Add support for Generic PHY in macb Michael Trimarchi
2008-02-22 12:52 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2008-02-22 14:05   ` michael
2008-02-22 14:39     ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2008-02-22 15:05   ` Michael Schwingen
2008-02-22 15:34     ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2008-02-22 15:46       ` Michael Schwingen
2008-02-26  1:23       ` Ben Warren [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-22 16:19 Michael Trimarchi
2008-02-26  1:30 ` Ben Warren
2008-02-22 16:02 Michael Trimarchi
2008-02-22 16:08 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2008-02-22 16:22   ` Michael Schwingen
2008-02-23 12:23   ` michael
2008-02-24  9:10     ` Michael Schwingen
2008-02-24 13:30       ` trimarchi at gandalf.sssup.it
2008-02-24 16:36         ` Michael Schwingen
2008-02-24 17:48           ` trimarchi at gandalf.sssup.it
2008-02-24 18:24         ` Andy Fleming
2008-02-22 14:07 Michael Trimarchi
2008-02-22 12:29 Michael Trimarchi
2008-02-22 11:41 michael
2008-02-22 12:16 ` Haavard Skinnemoen

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