[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[Vyas Ashish]

Hi Group,

I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up 
the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which can 
be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The code 
has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want to take 
up the UBoot porting on this board as a task.

Any quick pointer to start with? Do we have some other similar board 
already supported by UBoot code that I can "clone" to make things faster?

Best regards, 
Ashish Vyas 
Larsen & Toubro Infotech Ltd.
www.Lntinfotech.com

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[Jerry Van Baren]

Vyas Ashish wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up 
> the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which 
> can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The 
> code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want 
> to take up the UBoot porting on this board as a task.

If you received a u-boot binary for that board, you have the right to 
ask for a copy of the source that generated that u-boot binary and the 
company that distributed that u-boot binary (apparently Atmel) has the 
legal obligation to provide that at a reasonable cost to cover their 
distribution costs.  That is all part of the GNU General Public License.
   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl>

There are Atmel employees on this list, perhaps they can speak to the 
issue more directly.

> Any quick pointer to start with? Do we have some other similar board 
> already supported by UBoot code that I can "clone" to make things faster?
> 
> Best regards,
> Ashish Vyas

Best regards,
gvb

[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[Jerry Van Baren]

> Jerry Van Baren wrote:
>> Vyas Ashish wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>>
>>> I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring 
>>> up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary 
>>> which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source 
>>> code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to 
>>> do. I want to take up the UBoot porting on this board as a task.
>> 
>> If you received a u-boot binary for that board, you have the right to 
>> ask for a copy of the source that generated that u-boot binary and the 
>> company that distributed that u-boot binary (apparently Atmel) has the 
>> legal obligation to provide that at a reasonable cost to cover their 
>> distribution costs.  That is all part of the GNU General Public License.
>>   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl>
>> 
>> There are Atmel employees on this list, perhaps they can speak to the 
>> issue more directly.
>> 
>>> Any quick pointer to start with? Do we have some other similar board 
>>> already supported by UBoot code that I can "clone" to make things faster?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ashish Vyas
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> gvb

I received the following email from Ulf - it appears he is struggling 
with his phone/email and sent it directly to me only, not to the list. 
The one that really needed it was Vyas.  As expected, Vyas just needed 
to know where to look to get the source.

> Atmel does not sell GPL 
> source.
> 
> Check out www.Iinux4sam.org
> for U-boot source.
> 
> A later version will be 
> downloaded when
> You run buildroot,
> bul  that is not shipped
> with any systems.
> 
> Has there not been SAM9261
> patches sent in to the git
> lately?
> 
> (Symbian mail client sucks as well)
> 
> Best Regards
> Ulf Samuelsson

HTH,
gvb

[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[Ken.Fuchs at bench.com]

> >> Vyas Ashish wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Group,
> >>>
> >>> I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I 
> >>> want to bring 
> >>> up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got 
> >>> UBoot binary 
> >>> which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get 
> >>> the source 
> >>> code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do 
> >>> not want to 
> >>> do. I want to take up the UBoot porting on this board as a task.

> > Jerry Van Baren wrote:

> >> If you received a u-boot binary for that board, you have 
> >> the right to 
> >> ask for a copy of the source that generated that u-boot 
> >> binary and the 
> >> company that distributed that u-boot binary (apparently 
> >> Atmel) has the 
> >> legal obligation to provide that at a reasonable cost to 
> >> cover their 
> >> distribution costs.  That is all part of the GNU General 
> >> Public License.
> >>   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl>
> >> 
> >> There are Atmel employees on this list, perhaps they can 
> >> speak to the 
> >> issue more directly.
> >> 
> >>> Any quick pointer to start with? Do we have some other 
> >>> similar board 
> >>> already supported by UBoot code that I can "clone" to 
> >>> make things faster?

> Jerry Van Baren wrote:

> I received the following email from Ulf - it appears he is struggling 
> with his phone/email and sent it directly to me only, not to 
> the list. 
> The one that really needed it was Vyas.  As expected, Vyas 
> just needed 
> to know where to look to get the source.

> Ulf Samuelsson via Jerry Van Baren wrote:

> > Atmel does not sell GPL 
> > source.
> > 
> > Check out www.Iinux4sam.org
> > for U-boot source.

There is a typo in the above URI.  It should be:

http://www.linux4sam.org/

> > A later version will be 
> > downloaded when
> > You run buildroot,
> > bul  that is not shipped
> > with any systems.
> > 
> > Has there not been SAM9261
> > patches sent in to the git
> > lately?

AT91SAM9261-EK should be available by now via git to the AT91
U-Boot git repository:

http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-at91.git;a=summary

I'm sure you will be much happier with the improvements
of the git at91 code than linux4sam.org whose most current
code is still _appears_ to be based on U-Boot 1.2.0.
(There is a reference to 1.3.0, saying the port is incomplete.)

Sincerely,

Ken Fuchs

[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <4852D065.9070800@ge.com> you wrote:
>
> I received the following email from Ulf - it appears he is struggling 
> with his phone/email and sent it directly to me only, not to the list. 
> The one that really needed it was Vyas.  As expected, Vyas just needed 
> to know where to look to get the source.

Know where to look to get the source?

That's illegal.

The GPL explicitely states:

    b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
    years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
    cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
    machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
    distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
    customarily used for software interchange; or, 

If such a written offer is included, you don't "need to know where to
look to get the source", because it is clearly documented.

Vyas, can you please comment if such a written offer was included with
the package you received?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
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[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[Andrejs Cainikovs]

Vyan is misinformed. Atmel do not sell GPL'ed stuff.

Regards,
Andrejs Cainikovs.

Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> In message <4852D065.9070800@ge.com> you wrote:
>   
>> I received the following email from Ulf - it appears he is struggling 
>> with his phone/email and sent it directly to me only, not to the list. 
>> The one that really needed it was Vyas.  As expected, Vyas just needed 
>> to know where to look to get the source.
>>     
>
> Know where to look to get the source?
>
> That's illegal.
>
> The GPL explicitely states:
>
>     b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
>     years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
>     cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
>     machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
>     distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
>     customarily used for software interchange; or, 
>
> If such a written offer is included, you don't "need to know where to
> look to get the source", because it is clearly documented.
>
> Vyas, can you please comment if such a written offer was included with
> the package you received?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
>
>   

[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[Wolfgang Denk]

In message <OFB129BF94.48311ED8-ON65257467.0030AB8A-65257467.00316D60@lntinfotech.com> you wrote:
> 
> I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring up 
> the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary which can 
> be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source code. The code 
> has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want to do. I want to take 

U-Boot is licensed under GPL, and whoever gave you the binary is also
obligated by law to give you the complete source code for free.

Can you please send me any documents that prove that somebody did
that, and who tat was? I will follow uo on this...


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on.
                                                    -- Samuel Goldwyn

[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[Ulf Samuelsson]

Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> In message
> <OFB129BF94.48311ED8-ON65257467.0030AB8A-65257467.00316D60@lntinfotech.com>
> you wrote:  
>> 
>> I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring
>> up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary
>> which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source
>> code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want
>> to do. I want to take 
> 
> U-Boot is licensed under GPL, and whoever gave you the binary is also
> obligated by law to give you the complete source code for free.
> 
> Can you please send me any documents that prove that somebody did
> that, and who tat was? I will follow uo on this...
> 
> 

Atmel provides GPL source for the AT91 on www.linux4sam.org.

the build of U-boot for the AT91SAM9261EK is explained at
http://www.linux4sam.org/twiki/bin/view/Linux4SAM/U-Boot

You will need:
ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-1.1.5.tar.bz2and applyftp://www.linux4sam.org/pub/uboot/u-boot-1.1.5_atmel_1.6/u-boot-1.1.5_atmel_1.6.diff



> Best regards,
> 
> Wolfgang Denk

Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson                ulf at atmel.com
Atmel Nordic AB
Mail:  Box 2033, 174 02 Sundbyberg, Sweden
Visit:  Kavalleriv?gen 24, 174 58 Sundbyberg, Sweden
Phone +46 (8) 441 54 22     Fax +46 (8) 441 54 29
GSM    +46 (706) 22 44 57


Technical support when I am not available:
AT90 AVR Applications Group: mailto:avr at atmel.com
AT91 ARM Applications Group: mailto:at91support at atmel.com
AVR32 Applications Group        mailto:avr32 at atmel.com
http://www.avrfreaks.net/;            http://avr32linux.org/
http://www.at91.com/ ;                 http://www.linux4sam.org/

[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Ulf,

in message <00ab01c8cee1$3b1192b0$040514ac@atmel.com> you wrote:
>
> Atmel provides GPL source for the AT91 on www.linux4sam.org.

Does Atmel include with  the  product  a  written  offer  with  clear
information where the source code can be found?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
"The value of marriage is not that adults produce children, but  that
children produce adults."                            - Peter De Vries

[U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot, how do I get started for Atmel at91sam9261ek

[Vyas Ashish]

Dear All,

Thanks for the responses and the information. I am getting the Uboot 
source and kernel patches from 
http://www.linux4sam.org/twiki/bin/view/Linux4SAM as of now and I will see 
if I am able to build and load the image on my own.

Thanks
Ashish Vyas



"Ulf Samuelsson" <ulf.samuelsson@atmel.com> 
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06/15/2008 05:42 PM

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"Vyas Ashish" <Vyas.Ashish@lntinfotech.com>, "Wolfgang Denk" <wd@denx.de>
cc
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Re: [U-Boot-Users] new to U-Boot,       how do I get started for Atmel 
at91sam9261ek






Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> In message
> 
<OFB129BF94.48311ED8-ON65257467.0030AB8A-65257467.00316D60@lntinfotech.com>
> you wrote: 
>> 
>> I have a at91sam9261ek evaluation Kit from Atmel and I want to bring
>> up the UBoot on that. When I got the board, I also got UBoot binary
>> which can be flashed and verified. However, I did not get the source
>> code. The code has to be purchased seperately, which I do not want
>> to do. I want to take 
> 
> U-Boot is licensed under GPL, and whoever gave you the binary is also
> obligated by law to give you the complete source code for free.
> 
> Can you please send me any documents that prove that somebody did
> that, and who tat was? I will follow uo on this...
> 
> 

Atmel provides GPL source for the AT91 on www.linux4sam.org.

the build of U-boot for the AT91SAM9261EK is explained at
http://www.linux4sam.org/twiki/bin/view/Linux4SAM/U-Boot

You will need:
ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/u-boot-1.1.5.tar.bz2and 
applyftp://www.linux4sam.org/pub/uboot/u-boot-1.1.5_atmel_1.6/u-boot-1.1.5_atmel_1.6.diff



> Best regards,
> 
> Wolfgang Denk

Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson                ulf at atmel.com
Atmel Nordic AB
Mail:  Box 2033, 174 02 Sundbyberg, Sweden
Visit:  Kavalleriv?gen 24, 174 58 Sundbyberg, Sweden
Phone +46 (8) 441 54 22     Fax +46 (8) 441 54 29
GSM    +46 (706) 22 44 57


Technical support when I am not available:
AT90 AVR Applications Group: mailto:avr at atmel.com
AT91 ARM Applications Group: mailto:at91support at atmel.com
AVR32 Applications Group        mailto:avr32 at atmel.com
http://www.avrfreaks.net/;            http://avr32linux.org/
http://www.at91.com/ ;                 http://www.linux4sam.org/

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