From: Jerry Van Baren <gerald.vanbaren@ge.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] tsec: Wait for auto-negotiation to complete without link
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:16:32 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <498C3830.6010407@ge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090204215831.057128322908@gemini.denx.de>
Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Scott Wood,
>
> In message <498A0D5C.5060901@freescale.com> you wrote:
>> Andy Fleming wrote:
>>> Hmmm....I made that change for a reason. Waiting for autonegotiation
>>> to finish on a tsec with no link was quite tiresome. If you've hooked
>>> up the 4th tsec, and try to boot, you end up waiting for *three* tsecs
>>> to timeout. If dhcp fails because the link isn't up you can always
>>> try again, or add a delay before dhcp starts so that the link is up.
>>>
>>> I'm open to other suggestions, but I really don't want to go back to
>>> the old behavior.
>> Is there any way that you could do the auto-negotiation in parallel?
Excellent suggestion!
Related suggestion: if we knew that the PHY was strapped to start
autonegotiation on power up (it is a board-specific option, typically
true), we could enhance the code to use those autonegotiation results
rather than hitting the PHY with the reset hammer and restarting
autonegotiation. This would have an added advantage of "reducing"
network start up time by 2 seconds (assuming normal power up time is
more than 2 seconds) by overlapping the software initialization and PHY
autonegotiation.
> You definitely do not want to do that.
>
> Requirement is NOT to initialize network interfaces unless used by
> U-Boot.
Autonegotiation is *not necessarily* a violation of this principle. The
autonegotiation is in the PHY and is (should be) logically completely
separate from initializing the network interface (MAC).
Just because the PHY is ready to run should have no impact on u-boot or
linux start up. Case in point: most PHYs actually start their
autonegotiation when power is applied (it typically is a strapping option).
Caveats:
* I have not looked at the code, but the PHY initialization is probably
coupled in s/w with the MAC (ethernet chip) initialization. This would
have to be changed to decouple the two.
* Typically, PHYs have an interrupt output line. I'm assuming here that
the interrupt is disabled. If the interrupt is *enabled,* it *would*
violate u-boot's ground rule about not leaving hardware grenades laying
around. The interrupt can be disabled in the PHY itself or at the CPU
end of the interrupt line.
1) It would be very unusual to have the interrupt enabled in u-boot.
I would be surprised if any PHY initialization enables the
interrupt (it is a control bit in a register in the PHY,
I forgot if it is a standard register or PHY-specific).
2) If a PHY interrupt causes a problem in linux, it is a driver bug
IMHO because it would mean the linux driver enabled the interrupt
before initializing the handler. This would be a race condition
bug regardless of what u-boot does with the PHY and I trust none
of these are present in linux. ;-/
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
Ditto,
gvb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-06 13:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-04 21:14 [U-Boot] [PATCH] tsec: Wait for auto-negotiation to complete without link Peter Tyser
2009-02-04 21:20 ` Andy Fleming
2009-02-04 21:26 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-04 21:45 ` Peter Tyser
2009-02-04 23:07 ` Andy Fleming
2009-02-05 16:27 ` Peter Tyser
2009-02-06 13:32 ` Jerry Van Baren
2009-02-06 18:49 ` Andy Fleming
2009-02-06 19:30 ` Jerry Van Baren
2009-02-10 0:56 ` Andy Fleming
2009-02-10 13:59 ` Jerry Van Baren
2009-02-10 17:31 ` Scott Wood
2009-02-25 20:30 ` Peter Tyser
2009-02-04 21:49 ` Scott Wood
2009-02-04 21:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-04 22:00 ` Scott Wood
2009-02-04 22:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-02-06 13:16 ` Jerry Van Baren [this message]
2009-02-06 17:16 ` Ben Warren
2009-07-19 20:14 ` Peter Tyser
2009-08-04 22:50 ` Peter Tyser
2009-08-21 17:04 ` Peter Tyser
2009-08-21 17:35 ` Ben Warren
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