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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] REJECT: Too many recipients to the message
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:27:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A2455C2.1020306@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090601220021.3F722832E416@gemini.denx.de>

Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear T Ziomek,
> 
> In message <20090601210846.GJ8553@email.mot.com> you wrote:
>>>>>> How about reconfiguring the list software instead?
>>>>> I see no reason for that yet.
>> I see no reason, at least none articulated as of yet, for the current
>> configuration.
> 
> The current configurations is (1) the default one, and (2) pretty
> useful to detect list abuse that has not been cought yet by other
> means.

I don't understand what CC lists have to do with abuse of the mailing 
list -- any mail generated by a CC is done at the sender's mail server. 
CC lists do not cause additional mail to be sent by lists.denx.de.

At worst, long-running threads can accumulate CCs that are no longer 
relevant to where the thread has gone (and I'm fine with encouraging 
those to be trimmed), but that's got nothing to do with the mailing list 
itself.  The only thing that having the list reject such mails will 
accomplish is that people *not* on the CC list won't see the mail, which 
is sort of the opposite of the intended effect.

>>> We neever before had any such problems. Currently  these  are  caused
>>> because  some  messages have 5 (or more) samsung.com addresses listed
>>> on Cc:; for example,  "[PATCH]  The  omap3  L2  cache  enable/disable
>>> function to omap3 dependent code" has 6 such addresses on Cc:
>> And what problem does that cause?
> 
> Such messages need manual moderation which (1) delays the messages and
> (2) causes additional work to the list moderator (me).

That problem is not caused by the CC lists, but rather the configuration 
of the list server.  What problem do the CC lists cause *by themselves*?

>>> In  this  specific  case,  a
>>> company-internal   distribution   list   would   probably   be   more
>>> appropriate.
>> I don't understand what you envision here, or what it would accomplish.
> 
> They could Cc: u-boot-addicts at foo.com (i. e. just one address) and
> distribute this internally to anybody who might be interested.

What would that accomplish (keeping in mind that the CCs are often not 
for expanding the distribution list but calling specific people's 
attention to the mail)?  If those "addicts" were uniformly interested in 
all u-boot mail, why wouldn't they just subscribe to the list?  If 
they're only interested in some threads, what makes you think it will be 
the same set of "5 (or more)" people each time?

How should I know that someone wants to be CCed by some address other 
than what they post with?

-Scott

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-01 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-01 17:58 [U-Boot] REJECT: Too many recipients to the message Wolfgang Denk
2009-06-01 18:39 ` Scott Wood
2009-06-01 18:47   ` Jerry Van Baren
2009-06-01 18:50     ` Scott Wood
2009-06-01 20:01       ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-06-01 20:00   ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-06-01 20:32     ` T Ziomek
2009-06-01 20:51       ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-06-01 21:08         ` T Ziomek
2009-06-01 22:00           ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-06-01 22:27             ` Scott Wood [this message]
2009-06-02  0:09             ` T Ziomek
2009-06-02  6:53     ` Stefan Roese
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-06-02  2:52 HeungJun, Kim

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