[U-Boot] U-BOOT quiet build

[U-Boot] U-BOOT quiet build

[Michal Simek]

Hi All,

how to do quiet U-BOOT build?

Mike: I think I saw in past any command which do it. Am I right?

Thanks,
Michal

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[U-Boot] U-BOOT quiet build

[Mike Frysinger]

On Thursday 27 August 2009 03:48:52 Michal Simek wrote:
> how to do quiet U-BOOT build?

you mean quiet build like you see with Linux/busybox/uClibc/etc..., u-boot 
doesnt support it.  Wolfgang rejected the idea.

there is silent build like anything else ... use make's -s flag
-mike
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[U-Boot] U-BOOT quiet build

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Mike Frysinger,

In message <200908270409.16115.vapier@gentoo.org> you wrote:
>
> you mean quiet build like you see with Linux/busybox/uClibc/etc..., u-boot
> doesnt support it.  Wolfgang rejected the idea.

That's not correct. I did not reject the _idea_.

I just rejected the implementation. I think it is fundamentally wrong
and broken to implement this feature which seems to be high valued in
many projects again and again and again in each and every project's
Makefile code.

Instead, it should be implemented once where it actually belongs: in
the make tool itself, so that _all_ projects can benefit from it
without adding complexity and increased build times to their
Makefiles.

But like in so many cases people rather copy & paste code around
without actually thinking.

> there is silent build like anything else ... use make's -s flag

...or run "./MAKEALL <name>" which has the added benefit of keeping
full log files in the LOG/ directory in case anything should go
wrong.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot] U-BOOT quiet build

[Mike Frysinger]

On Thursday 27 August 2009 04:45:01 Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > you mean quiet build like you see with Linux/busybox/uClibc/etc...,
> > u-boot doesnt support it.  Wolfgang rejected the idea.
>
> That's not correct. I did not reject the _idea_.
>
> I just rejected the implementation. I think it is fundamentally wrong
> and broken to implement this feature which seems to be high valued in
> many projects again and again and again in each and every project's
> Makefile code.
>
> Instead, it should be implemented once where it actually belongs: in
> the make tool itself, so that _all_ projects can benefit from it
> without adding complexity and increased build times to their
> Makefiles.

in reality, these equate to the same thing.  the make tool isnt going to 
implement this stuff since it's pretty much impossible to cover all cases.

automake has already integrated support so all automake-based packages get 
support for free.
-mike
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[U-Boot] U-BOOT quiet build

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Mike Frysinger,

In message <200908270505.16659.vapier@gentoo.org> you wrote:
>
> > Instead, it should be implemented once where it actually belongs: in
> > the make tool itself, so that _all_ projects can benefit from it
> > without adding complexity and increased build times to their
> > Makefiles.
> 
> in reality, these equate to the same thing.  the make tool isnt going to 
> implement this stuff since it's pretty much impossible to cover all cases.

Really? Has such a proposal been submitted and turned down?

> automake has already integrated support so all automake-based packages get
> support for free.

I don't consider this a recommendation for automake or the makers of
automake. YMMV, of course.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
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[U-Boot] U-BOOT quiet build

[Mike Frysinger]

On Thursday 27 August 2009 06:09:03 Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > Instead, it should be implemented once where it actually belongs: in
> > > the make tool itself, so that _all_ projects can benefit from it
> > > without adding complexity and increased build times to their
> > > Makefiles.
> >
> > in reality, these equate to the same thing.  the make tool isnt going to
> > implement this stuff since it's pretty much impossible to cover all
> > cases.
>
> Really? Has such a proposal been submitted and turned down?

no idea, but i dont believe it is technically possible, thus it's a dead end 
i'm not going to waste time on
-mike
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[U-Boot] U-BOOT quiet build

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Mike Frysinger,

In message <200908270643.12310.vapier@gentoo.org> you wrote:
> 
> > Really? Has such a proposal been submitted and turned down?
> 
> no idea, but i dont believe it is technically possible, thus it's a dead end 
> i'm not going to waste time on

Where exactly do you exect technical problems?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
As in certain cults it is possible to kill a process if you know  its
true name.                      -- Ken Thompson and Dennis M. Ritchie

[U-Boot] U-BOOT quiet build

[Michal Simek]

Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Thursday 27 August 2009 03:48:52 Michal Simek wrote:
>> how to do quiet U-BOOT build?
> 
> you mean quiet build like you see with Linux/busybox/uClibc/etc..., u-boot 
> doesnt support it.  Wolfgang rejected the idea.

yep, I meant quiet mode like is in linux kernel and full mode with V=1.

Michal


> 
> there is silent build like anything else ... use make's -s flag
> -mike
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