From: Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud@free.fr>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] ARM relocation, question to Heiko
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 18:47:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CA8B39D.7000302@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CA8A2E0.7090407@comcast.net>
Le 03/10/2010 17:36, J. William Campbell a ?crit :
> Hi All,
> It is for sure that -fPIC/-fPIE programs will contain more executable
> instructions than programs compiled without these options.
> The program will also contain more data space for the got. If -fPIC
> actually produced a fully position-independent executable, the extra
> overhead would perhaps be tolerable. However, since it does not do this,
> (problems with initialized data etc.) there is really no advantage in
> using these compile-time options. The executable code and required data
> space for the program without these switches will "always" be smaller
> and faster than with them. In order to fix the remaining issues even
> when using -fPIC, a relocation loop must exist in the u-boot code,
> either one global one or a bunch of user written specific ones. Also,
> the -pie switch will be needed anyway at link time to build the
> relocation table for the remaining relocation requirements.
> Programs compiled without -fPIC will have a larger .rel.dyn table than
> those compiled with -fPIC. However, the table entries in the relocation
> table occupy about the same storage as the code generated by the
> compiler to relocate a reference to the symbol at run time. So this is
> probably a almost a wash. Also, the dynamic relocation data need not be
> copied into the run-time object, as it is no longer needed. So the
> likely outcome is that the "flash" image is about the same size/slightly
> larger than the one compiled by -fPIC, and that the ram footprint after
> relocation is slightly smaller.
> If one is REALLY pressed for space, the size of the dynamic relocation
> area can be reduced by a post-processor program that would re-format the
> relocation entries. This re-formatting is possible because 1) ELF is a
> very general format and we only need a small subset of it, and 2) u-boot
> code will never occupy say 16 MB of space, so each relocation can
> probably be compressed into a 32 bit word. I doubt anyone is that
> desperate, but it IS possible.
> It will be interesting to see what the results of this comparison are.
> For me, the no user awareness of relocation is worth a lot, and the fact
> that the difference/overhead of relocation will all be in exactly one
> place is very appealing.
>
> Best Regards,
> Bill Campbell
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the explanations. I am experimenting with ELF relocation
right now, replacing -fPIe with -pie, and this generates .rel.dyn, but
also many other sections. I'm trying to get rid of them; apparently
/DISCARD/ing them in the linker file seems to reduce this to a minimum
(I still have a .got.plt section which seems useless but I cannot remove
it lest the linker segfaults).
But the .rel.dyn generated by the linker section does not provide
symbols to mark its start and end, and I have found no documentation in
binutils ld which would describe how to rewrite the .rel.dyn section and
add these symbols myself.
How did you manage that for i386? I did not see a linker file in the
i386 part of u-boot.
Amicalement,
--
Albert.
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Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-30 13:57 [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake Reinhard Meyer
2010-09-30 14:08 ` Stefano Babic
2010-09-30 14:20 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-09-30 15:39 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-09-30 16:06 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-09-30 15:38 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-09-30 17:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 5:25 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 5:40 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-01 5:53 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 6:39 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 6:57 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 8:45 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 7:01 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-01 7:42 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake - back to original problem Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 8:27 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 10:44 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 10:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 11:03 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 11:21 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 11:37 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 11:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 12:22 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 12:47 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 12:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 14:55 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-02 8:53 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 15:47 ` Steve Sakoman
2010-10-02 7:15 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, question to Heiko Reinhard Meyer
[not found] ` <4CA6E517.9040701@fr<1286167382.22760.19.camel@ptyser-laptop>
2010-10-02 7:53 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-02 8:10 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-02 8:26 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-02 9:08 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-02 9:29 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:05 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-02 10:17 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-02 16:21 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-02 18:33 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-03 18:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-02 20:39 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-02 21:09 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-02 23:07 ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-03 7:10 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 8:44 ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-03 8:58 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 15:36 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-03 16:47 ` Albert ARIBAUD [this message]
2010-10-03 17:54 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 5:41 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-03 18:29 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-03 19:26 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-04 5:52 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-03 18:14 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-03 18:54 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-03 19:52 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-03 18:34 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:45 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 6:08 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-04 6:40 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 7:27 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 8:28 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 8:57 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-04 9:27 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 10:01 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 9:58 ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-04 14:17 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 14:25 ` Rogan Dawes
2010-10-04 15:24 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 16:31 ` Stefan Roese
2010-10-04 21:31 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 7:44 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 4:43 ` Peter Tyser
2010-10-04 6:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 7:36 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 8:08 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 8:28 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 8:33 ` Albert ARIBAUD
[not found] ` <OF05779DA1.EF3C4954-ONC12577B2.00307A0D-C12577B2.0030B9C0@tran <4CAA1613.80002@comcast.net>
2010-10-04 8:52 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 9:10 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 10:13 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 15:28 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-04 15:52 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 17:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 17:59 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-04 18:43 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 21:10 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-05 7:26 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 17:04 ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-04 17:14 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 8:27 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-02 8:49 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake - back to original problem Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 12:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 14:48 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 7:44 ` [U-Boot] AT91 clock and timer cleanups (was: ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake - back to original problem) Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 8:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 8:42 ` [U-Boot] AT91 clock and timer cleanups Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 8:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 8:52 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 9:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 9:12 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 14:58 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 17:00 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 17:15 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 17:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 19:22 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 8:48 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake - back to original problem Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 9:50 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 8:03 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 7:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 8:28 ` Heiko Schocher
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