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From: Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud@free.fr>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC] arm926ejs: fix jump to RAM nand_boot
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:53:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CCF1AA5.809@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinL_70VMhcyGZw+3brSgmAzcuS6WQ2mLV5L3Fah@mail.gmail.com>

Le 01/11/2010 20:44, Graeme Russ a ?crit :
> On Tuesday, November 2, 2010, Albert ARIBAUD<albert.aribaud@free.fr>  wrote:
>> Le 01/11/2010 20:23, Wolfgang Denk a ?crit :
>>> Dear Albert ARIBAUD,
>>>
>>> In message<4CCEF2E4.5080003@free.fr>    you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also, I understand why the second RFC change I did was harmful to tx25.
>>>> Contrary to u-boot itself, u-boot-spl is not compiled to be position
>>>> independent; it actually loads at a given address then copies itself,
>>>> without relocating, to its home location.
>>>
>>> It copies _itself_? Not the U-Boot payload?
>>>
>>> Heiko, is this intentional?  Do we really first load the whole image,
>>> then copy the U-Boot payload to some other address, then relocate it
>>> to yet another one?
>>
>> I haven't been clear.
>>
>> The boot ROM or IPL loads u-boot-spl in RAM at a fixed location and
>> jumps to it.
>>
>> u-boot-spl copies itself at its intended location if not already there,
>> and jumps to tiself at that new location.
>>
>> u-boot-spl loads u-boot at a fixed location and jumps to it.
>>
>> u-boot relocates (copies and fixes up) itself at top of ram if not
>> already there, and jumps to itself at that new location.
>>
>
> Wow, what a terrible waste!
>
> Why does u-boot-spl need to relocate?

As I said, u-boot-spl does not relocate, it only copies itself to its 
link-time location and jumps there, and it does this only if loaded 
somewhere else to boot (if I may say so). *Usually* it will be loaded at 
the right place and thus won't copy itself and jump to itself.

It still takes up some space, though. The copy and jump could actually 
be #ifdef's on CONFIG_NAND_SPL if everyone thinks it is safe -- please 
comment quickly as I'm preparing a patch set and that could go in it if 
agreed to.

> Can't u-boot-spl load AND relocate u-boot, or does u-boot-spl have
> tight space constraints?

It has; it comes from a (usually small) NAND page.

> Regards
>
> Graeme

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-01 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-31 17:43 [U-Boot] [RFC] arm926ejs: fix linker file for newer ld support Albert Aribaud
2010-10-31 18:11 ` Alexander Holler
2010-10-31 18:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-31 18:31   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-31 18:36     ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-31 18:38   ` Alexander Holler
2010-10-31 19:01     ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-31 19:07       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-31 19:22         ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-31 19:40           ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-31 19:59             ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-31 20:23               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-31 20:32                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-31 21:20                 ` [U-Boot] [RFC] arm926ejs: fix jump to RAM nand_boot Albert Aribaud
2010-10-31 21:51                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-31 21:55                     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-31 22:28                   ` Alexander Holler
2010-10-31 23:04                     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-01  5:13                       ` sughosh ganu
2010-11-01  8:12                         ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-01  9:13                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-01  9:15                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-01 17:03                         ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-01 19:23                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-01 19:30                             ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-01 19:35                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-01 20:04                                 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-01 19:44                               ` Graeme Russ
2010-11-01 19:53                                 ` Albert ARIBAUD [this message]
2010-11-01 20:01                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-01 20:19                                 ` Scott Wood
2010-11-02  6:29                             ` Heiko Schocher
2010-11-02  6:54                               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-02  7:10                                 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-11-02  8:33                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-02  8:55                                 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-11-02  9:17                                   ` Stefan Roese
2010-11-09 19:19                                     ` Scott Wood
2010-11-02  9:21                                   ` Sughosh Ganu
2010-11-02  8:57                               ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-11-02  9:11                                 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-02  9:34                                   ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-11-02  9:42                                     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-03  6:37                                     ` V, Aneesh
2010-11-03  8:02                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-03 10:39                                         ` V, Aneesh
2010-11-03 11:27                                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-03 12:03                                             ` V, Aneesh
2010-11-03 12:08                                               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-03 12:20                                                 ` V, Aneesh
2010-11-03 13:00                                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-03 14:07                                                 ` V, Aneesh
2010-11-03 18:25                                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-02  9:38                                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-02  9:47                                   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-02  9:56                                     ` Sughosh Ganu
2010-11-02 11:16                                       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-02 11:32                                         ` Sughosh Ganu
2010-11-02 13:28                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-31 19:01     ` [U-Boot] [RFC] arm926ejs: fix linker file for newer ld support Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-31 18:35 ` Darius Augulis
2010-10-31 18:53   ` Albert ARIBAUD

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