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From: Sebastien Carlier <sebastien.carlier@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] Weak symbols: request for comments
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:16:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CD3F58F.8090302@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CD3E7A4.4000109@emk-elektronik.de>

Dear Reinhard,

On 11/05/2010 12:16 PM, Reinhard Meyer wrote:
>> 1.2) Use regular (non-weak) extern declarations for overridable stuff;
>>        collect all default weak symbols into a separate library archive,
>>        to be supplied last to the linker.
>>      
> Not very practical, that would require that each driver etc. would
> be in two parts, the main part and the "weak" part. It would no need
> weak functions, however.
>    

You are entirely correct.  It would be slightly inconvenient for drivers 
that provide overridable stuff, but no non-standard feature is needed 
and the benefit of static linking is preserved.

>> 1.3) Stop using a library archive for the board specific stuff.
>>        Instead, collect and link all the object files to produce the
>>        output binary.  Only Makefile changes are involved, but correct
>>        behavior depends on all boards doing the right thing.
>>      
> I don't like the "weak" concept :)
>    

It does seem like weak symbols were designed with other uses in mind, 
such as C++ class members defined within a class declaration, or to weak 
the dependencies between libraries... but not really to allow 
overridable definitions (what if two objects want to override the same 
weak symbol in different ways?).

>> 1.4) Link u-boot into a board-agnostic dynamic library, link the
>>        board-specific stuff into an executable embedding a dynamic
>>        linker, and package all this stuff somehow.
>>      
> That is too complex. Besides there are few board-agnostic parts in
> u-boot, many functions rely in included defines that are board
> specific.
>    

Agreed.

>> Are there better options?  Which one would you prefer to see
>> implemented?
>>      
> Yes. The old-fashioned #define CONFIG_BOARD_INIT_F and friends
> method. I would prefer that one. Its not beautiful but still
> widely used and bullet-proof.
>    

Could you please elaborate?  I have looked for things like this in the 
code base but I could not find what you are referring to.

Regards,

Sebastien Carlier

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-05 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-05 10:39 [U-Boot] Weak symbols: request for comments Sebastien Carlier
2010-11-05 11:01 ` Andre Schwarz
2010-11-05 11:16 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-11-05 12:16   ` Sebastien Carlier [this message]
2010-11-05 12:23     ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-05 12:57       ` Sebastien Carlier
2010-11-06 14:28         ` [U-Boot] [PATCH] Switch from library archives to partial linking Sebastien Carlier
2010-11-06 17:21           ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-11-07 14:16             ` Peter Tyser
2010-11-07 15:11               ` Sebastien Carlier
2010-11-07 15:30                 ` Andreas Bießmann
2010-11-07 16:18                   ` Sebastien Carlier
2010-11-07 16:54                     ` Andreas Bießmann
2010-11-10  4:41                 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-11-07 21:46           ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-07 22:24             ` Peter Tyser
2010-11-07 22:33               ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-05 12:30     ` [U-Boot] Weak symbols: request for comments Reinhard Meyer
2010-11-05 11:21 ` Andreas Bießmann
2010-11-05 12:04   ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-11-05 12:14 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-11-05 12:40   ` Sebastien Carlier
2010-11-05 15:00   ` Sebastien Carlier

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