From: Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud@free.fr>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/5] MX5:MX53: add initial support for MX53EVK board
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 07:52:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D0EFD49.6000206@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimW3LRDLba5cK1uNgfG5CfhmiFgeyiaFX8xz7Hg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Jason,
(cutting to essential parts of the discussion)
Le 20/12/2010 06:19, Jason Liu a ?crit :
> Forget about the case about boot From NAND, we are talking about boot
> from SD/MMC card here.
Which is exactly the same: usually the ROM code is just sophisticated
enough to do a single, small, read from the lowest address and execute
what was read. How this small piece of code is called varies, but
basically it does a first-stage bootstrap and loads the next piece,
usually a (more) full-fledged bootloader.
> Why I call it here"plug-in", it due to it use the plugin feature of ROM.
>
> This section of code is for ROM to load and run, thus it should meet
> the ROM boot structure requirement.
> The plugin feature of ROM can give more flexibility and it can
> overcome some shortcomings of DCD(used on mx51).
>
> By using this plugin we can get around the following issues:
> 1. DCD size limitation issue, plugin can be the size of OCRAM free space region.
> 2. Safe environment to re-configure PLL1 (without impacting SDRAM) as
> the plugin runs from OCRAM.
This is certainly good, although I'm not familiar enough with the mx
series to appreciate the improvements. What I can appreciate, though, is
that you're decribing a first-stage bootloader of sorts, and that
nothing in your description forces this "plug-in" to be linked with
u-boot, and even less, to be linked instead of u(boot's start code.
> I don't know .kwb format, but know .imx format. Here the .imx use the
> DCD table to do DDR init
> but with plugin, it need run the binary code not the DCD configure
> table. So, We need use assembly
> code to run the DDR init script.
Right! But you don't need to tack this code inside the u-boot binary.
> Here, We can talking about SD/MMC boot. It's some different with NAND
> boot.
Not really. for this "plug-in" boot, the ROM loads a small "plug-in"
from some fixed location in SD/MMC and executes it, hoping that it'll
contribute to some initializations and to loading the next payload.
Ditto for NAND boot.
> It's different with MX51 DCD approach.
AIUI, for mx51 providing added inits and payload info are is done by a
pure-data header; that is indeed different from NAND and SD/MMC boot
where doing inits and putting payload in RAM are done by code. But your
approach, from what I see, is not a third way; it seems to be a
combination of both the data and code approaches.
> ROM will only load 2KB data from the beginning of SD/MMC card. The
> first 1KB is not used, it means
> that only 1KB data is used. We need put ivt table and ddr init
> assembly code into this
> 1KB section. So, we can't put the assembly code into board_init or
> board_early_init_f.
I don't get this. Why can you only use 1 KB of IRAM? If your plugin is
supposed to setup DDR, how come it cannot fit in the IRAM which is the
only place where it can go? When the plug-in feature was designed,
surely people knew about that 1 KB constraint, right?
Please, check your requirements and actual hardware constraints and come
back with a simpler design where first stage bootloader will not "bleed
over" the payload.
Amicalement,
--
Albert.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-20 6:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-16 10:17 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/5] Add support for Freescale MX53 Jason Liu
2010-12-16 10:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/5] MX5: Add initial support for MX53 Jason Liu
2010-12-16 12:27 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-12-17 3:20 ` Jason Liu
2010-12-16 13:34 ` Stefano Babic
2010-12-17 3:18 ` Jason Liu
2010-12-16 10:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/5] serial_mxc: add support for MX53 processor Jason Liu
2010-12-16 10:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/5] fec_mxc: " Jason Liu
2010-12-16 10:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/5] mxc_i2c: " Jason Liu
2010-12-16 10:37 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-12-17 3:28 ` Jason Liu
2010-12-16 10:17 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/5] MX5:MX53: add initial support for MX53EVK board Jason Liu
2010-12-16 10:48 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-12-16 12:23 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-12-16 13:19 ` Stefano Babic
2010-12-17 3:05 ` Jason Liu
2010-12-17 5:41 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-12-17 10:20 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-12-17 13:05 ` Stefano Babic
2010-12-20 5:19 ` Jason Liu
2010-12-20 6:52 ` John Rigby
2010-12-22 13:40 ` Jason Liu
2010-12-27 10:03 ` Stefano Babic
2010-12-20 6:52 ` Albert ARIBAUD [this message]
2010-12-16 23:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-12-17 3:04 ` Jason Liu
2010-12-17 5:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-12-16 12:25 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/5] Add support for Freescale MX53 Wolfgang Denk
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