From: Graeme Russ <graeme.russ@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC] Review of U-Boot timer API
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 20:53:26 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDA3CA6.8030600@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD9FEC7.2080909@aribaud.net>
On 23/05/11 16:29, Albert ARIBAUD wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry, could not follow the discussion although I find it very
> interesting, so I will handle the task of coming in late and asking the
> silly questions.
>
> Le 23/05/2011 07:25, Graeme Russ a ?crit :
>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:02 PM, J. William Campbell
>> <jwilliamcampbell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On 5/22/2011 6:42 PM, Graeme Russ wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK, so in summary, we can (in theory) have:
>>>> - A timer API in /lib/ with a single u32 get_timer(u32 base) function
>>>> - A HAL with two functions
>>>> - u32 get_raw_ticks()
>>>> - u32 get_raw_tick_rate() which returns the tick rate in kHz (which
>>>> max's out at just after 4GHz)
>>>> - A helper function in /lib/ u32 get_raw_ms() which uses get_raw_ticks()
>>>> and get_tick_rate() to correctly maintain the ms counter used by
>>>> get_timer() - This function can be weak (so next point)
>>>> - If the hardware supports a native 32-bit ms counter, get_raw_ms()
>>>> can be overridden to simply return the hardware counter. In this case,
>>>> get_raw_ticks() would return 1
>
> Are you sure you did not mean 'get_raw_ticks_rate' here? Besides, I'd
Yes, I did mean get_raw_ticks_rate()
> like the name to specify the units used: 'get_raw_ticks_rate_in_khz' (or
> conversively 'get_raw_ticks_per_ms', depending on which is simpler to
> implement and use).
>
indeed, get_raw_ticks_per_ms() is a better name
>>>> - Calling of get_raw_ticks() regularly in the main loop (how ofter will
>>>> depend on the raw tick rate, but I image it will never be necessary
>>>> to call more often than once every few minutes)
>
> That's to keep track of get_raw_ticks() rollovers, right? And then the
Yes
> get_timer function (which, again, I would prefer to have '... in ms'
> expressed in its name) would call get_raw_ticks() in confidence that at
> most one rollover may have occurred since the last time the helper
> function was called, so a simple difference of the current vs last tick
> value will always be correct.
Correct - And a change to get_ms_timer() could be in order if generally
supported, but this would be a big patch across a lot of code for a simple
rename
>>>> - If the hardware implements a native 32-bit 1ms counter, no call in
>>>> the main loop is required
>>>> - An optional HAL function u32 get_raw_us() which can be used for
>>>> performance profiling (must wrap correctly)
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>> Graeme, I think you have stated exactly what is the "best" approach to
>>> this problem. I will provide a version of "get_raw_ms" that is initialized
>>> using get_raw_tick_rate that will work for all "reasonable" values of
>>> raw_tick_rate. This will be the "generic" solution. Both the initialization
>>> function and the get_raw_ms function can be overridden if there is reason to
>>> do so, like "exact" clock rates. I will do the same with get_raw_us. This
>>> will be posted sometime on Monday for people to review, and to make sure I
>>> didn't get too far off base. Thank you to both Graeme and Reinhard for
>>> looking at/working on this.. Hopefully, this solution will put this timing
>>> issue to rest for all future ports as well as the presently existing ones.
>
> In Greame's description, I did not see a get_raw_ms, only a get_raw_us.
> Was this last one a typo or is that a third HAL function?
get_raw_ms() is used by get_timer(). get_raw_us() is an optional function
which can be used for performance profiling
>> Great - I am in the middle of cleaning up the current usages of the timer
>> API, reducing it all down to get_timer() - I will then 'libify'
>> get_timer() and setup the hooks into the HAL get_raw_ticks() and
>> get_raw_tick_rate() API
>>
>> I think there will need to be a lot of cleanup, especially in arch/arm to
>> get this to all fit
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Graeme
>
> Amicalement,
Regards,
Graeme
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Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-21 12:38 [U-Boot] [RFC] Review of U-Boot timer API Graeme Russ
[not found] ` <4DD7DB64.70605@comcast.net>
2011-05-22 0:06 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-22 0:43 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-22 4:26 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-22 6:23 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-22 7:21 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-22 7:44 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-22 8:15 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-23 0:02 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 0:20 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 0:14 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 1:00 ` Graeme Russ
[not found] ` <4DD9B608.7080307@comcast.net>
2011-05-23 1:42 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 5:02 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 5:25 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 6:29 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-05-23 10:53 ` Graeme Russ [this message]
2011-05-23 16:22 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 12:09 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 12:29 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 13:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 17:30 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 18:24 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-05-23 19:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 18:27 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 19:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 20:26 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 21:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 20:48 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 3:26 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-23 5:20 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-22 6:57 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 12:13 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 3:42 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-05-24 4:07 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 4:24 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-05-24 4:35 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 5:31 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-24 5:43 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 6:11 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-05-24 7:10 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 14:15 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 14:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 15:23 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-24 19:09 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 13:29 ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-24 14:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 16:51 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 18:59 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-24 19:31 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 19:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 22:32 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 5:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 16:50 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 19:56 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 0:17 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 2:53 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 3:21 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 5:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 6:06 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 8:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 8:38 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 11:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 11:52 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 12:26 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 12:42 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 12:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 13:14 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 13:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 21:11 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 21:16 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 23:13 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 0:15 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 0:33 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 4:19 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-26 4:40 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 5:03 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 5:16 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 5:25 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 5:55 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-05-26 6:18 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 6:36 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-26 8:48 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 9:02 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 4:54 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 5:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 6:02 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 8:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 8:26 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 11:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 11:53 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 12:27 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 12:36 ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-25 12:43 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 13:08 ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-25 13:16 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 13:46 ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-25 14:21 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 19:46 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 20:40 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 20:48 ` Wolfgang Denk
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