From: Graeme Russ <graeme.russ@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC] Review of U-Boot timer API
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 21:52:21 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDCED75.8030906@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110525113738.E49DFCFB8A4@gemini.denx.de>
Hi Wolfgang,
On 25/05/11 21:37, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Graeme Russ,
>
> In message <4DDCBFF4.40002@gmail.com> you wrote:
>>
>>> I don't get you. In such a system, the interrupt would be the tick
>>> (see the PPC implementation). If you miss interrupts, you miss ticks.
>>
>> Yes, you miss ticks, but if the hardware is keeping the tick counter
>> current in the background (i.e. without software or interrupts) then this
>> does not matter - The prescaler takes care of this...
>
> I think you don't want to understand.
>
> Look at the PPC implementation. The decrementer causes an interrupt
> every millisecond. This is our tick. We never ever actually read the
> decrementer register itself. We just use the interrupt.
x86 is the same - a 1ms interrupt which increments the timer
>> The key is the prescaler takes a 'tick delta' between the last time it was
>> called and now, uses the 'tick frequency' to calculate a corresponding
>> 'timer delta' which it adds to the current timer
>
> The "tick frequency" in above example is 1,000 Hz, and determined by
> the frequency of the interrupts. There is not any "timer count
> register" we are accessing here.
>
>> This relies on the tick counter wrapping properly.
>
> The "tick counter" is already in the higher level, i. e. implemented
> in software, without any hardware based registers.
And in the PPC case - No prescaler and life is easy
BUT - I just found something very disturbing in /board/zylonite/flash.c -
Interrupts are disables before the timer is used to detect a timeout!
Yes, this is in a board specific flash driver which is bad but who knows
where else this might (quite unintentionally) occur
No if you have:
start = get_timer(0)
while (hardware_busy) {
if (get_timer(start) > TIMEOUT) {
/* deal with timeout */
break;
}
/* Do stuf (poll hardware etc) */
}
Now every time get_timer() is called, the prescaler updates the timer from
the current tick count - This cannot fail if interrupts are inadvertently
disabled.
And if you do not care about the timer updating while you are not 'using
it' (i.e. checking for a timeout) - it doesn't really matter - You will get
a glitch, but this glitch is 'reset' by the call to get_timer() and your
timeout check starts a new timer increment afresh
Regards,
Graeme
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Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-21 12:38 [U-Boot] [RFC] Review of U-Boot timer API Graeme Russ
[not found] ` <4DD7DB64.70605@comcast.net>
2011-05-22 0:06 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-22 0:43 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-22 4:26 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-22 6:23 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-22 7:21 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-22 7:44 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-22 8:15 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-23 0:02 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 0:20 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 0:14 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 1:00 ` Graeme Russ
[not found] ` <4DD9B608.7080307@comcast.net>
2011-05-23 1:42 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 5:02 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 5:25 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 6:29 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-05-23 10:53 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 16:22 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 12:09 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 12:29 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 13:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 17:30 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 18:24 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-05-23 19:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 18:27 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 19:33 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 20:26 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 21:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-23 20:48 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-23 3:26 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-23 5:20 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-22 6:57 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-23 12:13 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 3:42 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-05-24 4:07 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 4:24 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-05-24 4:35 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 5:31 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-24 5:43 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 6:11 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-05-24 7:10 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 14:15 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 14:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 15:23 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-24 19:09 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 13:29 ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-24 14:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 16:51 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-24 18:59 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-24 19:31 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 19:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-24 22:32 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 5:17 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 16:50 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 19:56 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 0:17 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 2:53 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 3:21 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 5:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 6:06 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 8:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 8:38 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 11:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 11:52 ` Graeme Russ [this message]
2011-05-25 12:26 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 12:42 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 12:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 13:14 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 13:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 21:11 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 21:16 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 23:13 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 0:15 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 0:33 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 4:19 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-26 4:40 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 5:03 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 5:16 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 5:25 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 5:55 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2011-05-26 6:18 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 6:36 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-26 8:48 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 9:02 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 4:54 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 5:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 6:02 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 8:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 8:26 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 11:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 11:53 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 12:27 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 12:36 ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-25 12:43 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 13:08 ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-25 13:16 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 13:46 ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-25 14:21 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-25 19:46 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-25 20:40 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-25 20:48 ` Wolfgang Denk
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