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From: Scott McNutt <smcnutt@psyent.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC][Timer API] Revised Specification - Implementation details
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:44:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDFC6D1.10305@psyent.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DDFBC8A.8030403@comcast.net>

J. William Campbell wrote:
> On 5/27/2011 6:07 AM, Scott McNutt wrote:
>> Graeme Russ wrote:
>>> Hi Wolfgang
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 27, 2011, Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:
>>>> Dear Graeme Russ,
>>>>
>>>> In message <BANLkTik2SUm4Sm8aLjCrCmz+kcMGWgEzKw@mail.gmail.com> you 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Besides, Nios can return an increment of 10 (presumably ms) between
>>>>> two immediately consecutive calls. This causes early timeouts in CFI
>>>>> driver
>>>> Now this in turn is a bug in the timer implementation that needs to be
>>>> fixed.
>>
>> And this is what reset_timer() corrected.
>>
>>> Agreed, but that is not something I can achieve - I don't want to hold
>>> up this whole show that we have all put so much effort into for the
>>> sake of one weak function
>>
>> And I don't want to see something that currently works become broken
>> because we "improved" a feature ... simply because the resolution of
>> the timestamp is 10 msec rather than 1 msec.
>>
>> And just to be clear. This is not a Nios issue. Currently, if the
>> timestamp is incremented via a fixed period interrupt, and the period
>> of the interrupt is longer that 1 msec, calls to get_timer() may
>> produce early timeouts ... regardless of platform.
<snip>
> This can be 
> fixed in get_timer, making the 8 ms delay  become a minimum of 10 ms at 
> the expense of it becoming up to 20 ms sometimes.

Ok. Now I get it. Thanks.

<snip>
> This reset approach is bad in that it prevents 
> proper nesting of timing loops.

In my particular case, because reset_timer() resets the timestamp
to zero rather than simply restarting the timer. I believe leaving
the timestamp alone would solve the nesting problem.

<snip>
> The other fix 
> is in my opinion nicer, because it affects the nest loops less. If the 
> inner loop is executed 100 times, with the reset, the outer loop timeout 
> is extended by up to 1000 ms.

Bill, thank you for explaining -- probably for the nth time -- but it
did finally sink in.

Regards,
--Scott

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-27 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-26 13:27 [U-Boot] [RFC][Timer API] Revised Specification - Implementation details Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 15:57 ` Simon Glass
2011-05-26 17:28   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 22:44     ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  5:23       ` Simon Glass
2011-05-27  7:40         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:46           ` Simon Glass
2011-05-26 16:56 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 17:53   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 18:52     ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 19:16       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 19:54         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 20:27           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 20:39             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 22:59       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 23:28   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  1:26     ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  1:51       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  3:54         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  4:33           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  6:33             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  6:54               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27 15:49                 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-28  0:32                   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:33           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:16             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  7:28       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:04         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  7:13     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27  7:35       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:48         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27  7:57           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  8:01             ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27 11:27               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 12:43                 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27 13:07                   ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-27 15:00                     ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27 15:13                       ` Simon Glass
2011-05-27 17:11                         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27 15:44                       ` Scott McNutt [this message]
2011-05-27 15:59                         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-29 15:55                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-29 19:12                       ` Simon Glass
2011-05-30 10:57                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-30 11:47                           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-30 12:31                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-30 12:46                               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-30 18:57                           ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  0:24                             ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  4:07                               ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  4:24                                 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  4:36                                   ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  4:53                                     ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  5:56                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  4:45                               ` Simon Glass
2011-05-31  4:53                                 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  5:03                                   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  5:16                                     ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  6:03                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  6:23                                       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  5:18                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  5:37                                     ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  6:10                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  4:56                           ` Simon Glass
2011-05-31  5:49                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  6:28                               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  6:29                                 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-15 13:17                           ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-15 16:03                             ` Simon Glass
2011-06-15 20:38                               ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-15 21:58                                 ` Simon Glass
2011-06-15 23:09                                   ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-16  5:53                                     ` Simon Glass
2011-06-16  6:27                                       ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-16 13:58                                         ` Simon Glass
2011-05-27 11:26             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:23         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-28  5:53           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-28  6:18             ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-28  8:59               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-29  1:41             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 17:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 22:51   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:17     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27  7:33       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:45         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:58           ` Simon Glass

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