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From: Graeme Russ <graeme.russ@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC][Timer API] Revised Specification - Implementation details
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 22:46:38 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DE391AE.2080203@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110530123144.8C85514EBCB@gemini.denx.de>

Hi Wolfgang,

On 30/05/11 22:31, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Graeme Russ,
> 
> In message <4DE383D3.7020008@gmail.com> you wrote:
>>
>> Some platforms are _way_ worse than this - I am sure I have seen a udelay()
>> done with the millisecond time - So udelay(100) could be closer to
>> udelay(1000) - So your above 5 second delay could take as long as 50 seconds!!!
> 
> That should show up quickly as soon as you run a "sleep 5" command on
> the console (which is implemented like that).
> 
>>> 	while (test_for_event() == 0) {
>>> 		now = get_timer(0);
>>> 		if ((now - start) > timeout)
>>> 			handle_timeout();
>>>
>>> 		udelay(100);
>>> 	}
>>>
>>>    Here the loop overhead caused by short delay which may result in a
>>>    high number of calls to test_for_event() gets eliminated because
>>>    the time reference is independet of the delay.
>>
>> I personally think _any_ timeout greater than 1s (maybe even >500ms) should
>> be done this way
> 
> Agreed. As soon as the timeout is >> the interval size of the
> underlying timer service this is the best we can do.
> 
>>> 	start = get_timer(0);
>>>
>>> 	do_something_complicated();
>>>
>>> 	now = get_timer(0);
>>>
>>> 	printf("execution time: %ld millisec\n", now - start);
>>
>> Currently fails spectacularly if do_something_complicated() involves a
>> delay loop which calls reset_timer()
> 
> Note that I (intentionally) always used argument 0 in the calls to
> get_timer().  I think we really should get rid of this argument.
> 

Agreed - I am more than willing to update all existing timer usages to a
completely new set of timer API functions. I think suffering the pain of
moving to a more well defined API would be better than trying to clunk
around the existing one.

I think we all fairly well agree on how U-Boot will maintain a millisecond
(and possibly microsecond) timer in a platform independent manner using a
platform defined tick counter. Defining a timer API around that is simply a
matter of taste - particularly when it comes to dealing with precision
issues. I think your delta function is a good start - However maybe
something more like ms_delta(u32 from, u32 to) would be a more appropriate
name as it clears the way for us_delta()

Regards,

Graeme

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-30 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-26 13:27 [U-Boot] [RFC][Timer API] Revised Specification - Implementation details Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 15:57 ` Simon Glass
2011-05-26 17:28   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 22:44     ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  5:23       ` Simon Glass
2011-05-27  7:40         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:46           ` Simon Glass
2011-05-26 16:56 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 17:53   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 18:52     ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 19:16       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 19:54         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 20:27           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 20:39             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 22:59       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 23:28   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  1:26     ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  1:51       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  3:54         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  4:33           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  6:33             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  6:54               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27 15:49                 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-28  0:32                   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:33           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:16             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  7:28       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:04         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  7:13     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27  7:35       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:48         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27  7:57           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  8:01             ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27 11:27               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 12:43                 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27 13:07                   ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-27 15:00                     ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27 15:13                       ` Simon Glass
2011-05-27 17:11                         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27 15:44                       ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-27 15:59                         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-29 15:55                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-29 19:12                       ` Simon Glass
2011-05-30 10:57                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-30 11:47                           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-30 12:31                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-30 12:46                               ` Graeme Russ [this message]
2011-05-30 18:57                           ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  0:24                             ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  4:07                               ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  4:24                                 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  4:36                                   ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  4:53                                     ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  5:56                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  4:45                               ` Simon Glass
2011-05-31  4:53                                 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  5:03                                   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  5:16                                     ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  6:03                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  6:23                                       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  5:18                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  5:37                                     ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  6:10                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  4:56                           ` Simon Glass
2011-05-31  5:49                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  6:28                               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  6:29                                 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-15 13:17                           ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-15 16:03                             ` Simon Glass
2011-06-15 20:38                               ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-15 21:58                                 ` Simon Glass
2011-06-15 23:09                                   ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-16  5:53                                     ` Simon Glass
2011-06-16  6:27                                       ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-16 13:58                                         ` Simon Glass
2011-05-27 11:26             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:23         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-28  5:53           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-28  6:18             ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-28  8:59               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-29  1:41             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 17:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 22:51   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:17     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27  7:33       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:45         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:58           ` Simon Glass

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