[U-Boot] [RFC} [PATCH] Feature removal due to lack of custodians

[U-Boot] [RFC} [PATCH] Feature removal due to lack of custodians

[Wolfgang Denk]

Despite several calls nobody volunteered to help out.

Signed-off-by: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
---
 doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt |   14 ++++++++++++++
 1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt b/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
index e04ba2d..f0b828e 100644
--- a/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
+++ b/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
@@ -7,6 +7,20 @@ file.
 
 ---------------------------
 
+What:	USB Support
+When:	v2012.06
+Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
+Who:	Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
+
+---------------------------
+
+What:	Network Support
+When:	v2012.09
+Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
+Who:	Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
+
+---------------------------
+
 What:	Users of the legacy miiphy_* code
 When:	undetermined
 
-- 
1.7.7.6

[U-Boot] [RFC} [PATCH] Feature removal due to lack of custodians

[Albert ARIBAUD]

Hi Wolfgang,

Le 25/02/2012 23:10, Wolfgang Denk a ?crit :
> Despite several calls nobody volunteered to help out.
>
> Signed-off-by: Wolfgang Denk<wd@denx.de>
> ---
>   doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt |   14 ++++++++++++++
>   1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt b/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
> index e04ba2d..f0b828e 100644
> --- a/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
> +++ b/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
> @@ -7,6 +7,20 @@ file.
>
>   ---------------------------
>
> +What:	USB Support
> +When:	v2012.06
> +Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
> +Who:	Wolfgang Denk<wd@denx.de>
> +
> +---------------------------
> +
> +What:	Network Support
> +When:	v2012.09
> +Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
> +Who:	Wolfgang Denk<wd@denx.de>
> +
> +---------------------------
> +

What do you mean with 'removal' of 'USB support' and 'network support'? 
Do you intend that U-Boot 2012.06 be stripped of its USB code and 
2012.09 of its network code?

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.

[U-Boot] [RFC} [PATCH] Feature removal due to lack of custodians

[Marek Vasut]

> Hi Wolfgang,
> 
> Le 25/02/2012 23:10, Wolfgang Denk a ?crit :
> > Despite several calls nobody volunteered to help out.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Wolfgang Denk<wd@denx.de>
> > ---
> > 
> >   doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt |   14 ++++++++++++++
> >   1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
> > b/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt index e04ba2d..f0b828e 100644
> > --- a/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
> > +++ b/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
> > @@ -7,6 +7,20 @@ file.
> > 
> >   ---------------------------
> > 
> > +What:	USB Support
> > +When:	v2012.06
> > +Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
> > +Who:	Wolfgang Denk<wd@denx.de>
> > +
> > +---------------------------
> > +
> > +What:	Network Support
> > +When:	v2012.09
> > +Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
> > +Who:	Wolfgang Denk<wd@denx.de>
> > +
> > +---------------------------
> > +
> 
> What do you mean with 'removal' of 'USB support' and 'network support'?
> Do you intend that U-Boot 2012.06 be stripped of its USB code and
> 2012.09 of its network code?

I can't speak for WD, but noone really maintains that code, what else do you 
expect to do with it? USB support is literally trash.

M

[U-Boot] [RFC} [PATCH] Feature removal due to lack of custodians

[Albert ARIBAUD]

Hi Marek,

>> What do you mean with 'removal' of 'USB support' and 'network support'?
>> Do you intend that U-Boot 2012.06 be stripped of its USB code and
>> 2012.09 of its network code?
>
> I can't speak for WD, but noone really maintains that code, what else do you
> expect to do with it? USB support is literally trash.

At least I would expect that the code be frozen (patches declined but 
existing code kept), not removed.

As far as I am concerned, network and to a lesser extent USB (YMMV, of 
course) are very useful features and dropping them would be a great loss 
for U-Boot.

Plus, I am currently working on code that relates to Ethernet. :)

Amicalement,
-- 
Albert.

[U-Boot] [RFC} [PATCH] Feature removal due to lack of custodians

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Albert ARIBAUD,

In message <4F4967CB.5000809@aribaud.net> you wrote:
> 
> > I can't speak for WD, but noone really maintains that code, what else do you
> > expect to do with it? USB support is literally trash.
> 
> At least I would expect that the code be frozen (patches declined but 
> existing code kept), not removed.

Freezing code paves the ground for bit rot.  We would end up with the
same decision just one release later when the bugs start poping up.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
Whom the gods would destroy, they first teach BASIC.

[U-Boot] [RFC} [PATCH] Feature removal due to lack of custodians

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Albert ARIBAUD,

In message <4F495DA3.6020300@aribaud.net> you wrote:
>
> What do you mean with 'removal' of 'USB support' and 'network support'? 
> Do you intend that U-Boot 2012.06 be stripped of its USB code and 
> 2012.09 of its network code?

Yes.

What else can we do if there is nobody to maintain that code?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd at denx.de
As in certain cults it is possible to kill a process if you know  its
true name.                      -- Ken Thompson and Dennis M. Ritchie

[U-Boot] [RFC} [PATCH] Feature removal due to lack of custodians

[Simon Glass]

Hi Wolfgang,

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de> wrote:
> Despite several calls nobody volunteered to help out.
>
> Signed-off-by: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
> ---
> ?doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt | ? 14 ++++++++++++++
> ?1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt b/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
> index e04ba2d..f0b828e 100644
> --- a/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
> +++ b/doc/feature-removal-schedule.txt
> @@ -7,6 +7,20 @@ file.
>
> ?---------------------------
>
> +What: ?USB Support
> +When: ?v2012.06
> +Why: ? Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
> +Who: ? Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
> +
> +---------------------------
> +
> +What: ?Network Support
> +When: ?v2012.09
> +Why: ? Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.
> +Who: ? Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>

I might be able to help out with the network side. I am unsure of the
qualifications needed to be a custodian though.

Regards,
Simon

> +
> +---------------------------
> +
> ?What: ?Users of the legacy miiphy_* code
> ?When: ?undetermined
>
> --
> 1.7.7.6
>
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[U-Boot] [RFC} [PATCH] Feature removal due to lack of custodians

[Mike Frysinger]

On Saturday 25 February 2012 17:10:31 Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> +What:	Network Support
> +When:	v2012.09
> +Why:	Lack of a custodian, and lack of time and/or sponsors.

i've been pondering whether to help out here for a month or two.  i know 
you're not entirely serious wrt removal, but i guess i can try being the net 
guy for now and see how it works out.  i've done enough grubbing in the 
drivers/net/ and net/ code at this point to understand it.  then it's "just" a 
matter of time.
-mike
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