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From: Igor Grinberg <grinberg@compulab.co.il>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: allow use with Freescale 2.6.38 kernels
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 16:14:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5378E0.6080206@compulab.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F534D67.3010709@denx.de>

Hi,

On 03/04/12 13:09, Stefano Babic wrote:
> On 03/03/2012 14:30, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>> Dear Dirk Behme,
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> In message <4F52015A.2080003@googlemail.com> you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed.  If these patches were only for backward compatibility I would
>>>> not complain much.  But they are known to introduce forward incompati-
>>>> bilities with all this MACH_ID stuff, and this is what I would like to
>>>> avoid.
>>>
>>> Now I'm just trying to learn something regarding [1]:
>>>
>>> Which changes would you accept in the category 'backward compatibility'?
>>
>> There are 3 commits in this series:
>>
>> [PATCH 1/3] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: add CONFIG_REVISION_TAG
>> [PATCH 2/3] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: add MACH_TYPE_MX6Q_SABRELITE
>> [PATCH 3/3] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: add ext2 support
>>
>> I dislike #1 because it uses the completely undocumented
>> CONFIG_REVISION_TAG, and I agree with Marek's and Stefano's comments.
> 
> A lot of boards are currently set CONFIG_REVISION_TAG. Sure, it would be
> nice to document it. To be consistent we should drop this CONFIG_ from
> all boards, or add documentation for it.
> 
> However, I am asking if this TAG is really needed. I have searched in
> 2.6.38 Kernel provided by Freescale if the TAG is really evaluated to
> set different revisions of the boards, but I have not found anything. Is
> it  really needed ? If not, we should drop it.

Linux's system_rev global variable is set to that value.
You can check for it by "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Revision".

> 
>>
>> The problems I mentioned are with # 2, which now would depend on
>> MACH_TYPE_MX6Q_SABRELITE, which may or may not exist.
> 
> Right, I agree. And we do not know (maybe it is not this case) if
> MACH_TYPE_MX6Q_SABRELITE will be dropped in the future. IMHO we should
> not use mach-types at all..

+1
making the mach-type local to a board moves the maintenance burden
to a board maintainer which is good because it can be decided on per
board basis.
Also, we should always raise the question if it is still needed
for a particular board and don't let it in, if it is not...

> 
>>
>> Also, I think we should not need this any more at all, as we now have
>> DT support in Linux on ARM, too.
>>
>> I see no issues with # 3.
> 
> I will merge #3 into u-boot-imx
> 
>>
>>> And which changes 'introduce forward incompatibilities', and what are 
>>> these incompatibilities?
>>
>> See the recent problems that occurred when RMK decided to "clean up"
>> the machids file.
>>
>>> (assuming this will be changed to
>>>
>>> --- a/include/configs/mx6qsabrelite.h
>>> +++ b/include/configs/mx6qsabrelite.h
>>> @@ -27,6 +27,7 @@
>>>   #define CONFIG_SYS_MX6_CLK32           32768
>>>   #define CONFIG_DISPLAY_CPUINFO
>>>   #define CONFIG_DISPLAY_BOARDINFO
>>> +#define CONFIG_MACH_TYPE       3769
>>
>> Such a change would avoid breakages as the ones mentioned above, but
>> is this nice?  Either we have a mach-types.h that can be used, or we
>> don't,
> 
> Personally I vote for the second choice. U-boot does not use mach-types,
> and it is at the end only a parameter for the kernel.

+1

> 
> I think the solution in the patch is better as to try to maintain the
> mach-types file: not very nice, but setting its value is not different
> as several other setups inside the configuration file that are very
> board specifiv.

+1

> And CONFIG_MACH_TYPE is well documented.

10x ;-)

> 
>> in which case we should stop using any definitions from it,
>> especially for new boards where it's not needed due to DT support in
>> the kernel.
> 
> Agree completely - mach-types introduces a strong dependency with the
> kernel, and we do not need it.

+1

I think, some more time is needed for the transition to DT.
We should let the boards use non-DT configurations, but move the
maintenance to the board maintainer (i.e. set the CONFIG_MACH_TYPE
in the board config file).
Also, soon there will be no non-DT boards accepted in the mainline kernel
(probably, also, there will be no new machine types accepted in the machine
types registry), so the need for the mach-type will just go away, no?

-- 
Regards,
Igor.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-04 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-02 22:55 [U-Boot] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: allow use with Freescale 2.6.38 kernels Eric Nelson
2012-03-02 22:55 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: add CONFIG_REVISION_TAG Eric Nelson
2012-03-02 22:59   ` Marek Vasut
2012-03-04 20:35     ` Eric Nelson
2012-03-04 20:59       ` Marek Vasut
2012-03-04 21:04         ` Eric Nelson
2012-03-04 21:18           ` Marek Vasut
2012-03-04 22:06           ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-03-04 22:41             ` Eric Nelson
2012-03-03 10:26   ` Stefano Babic
2012-03-02 22:55 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/3] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: add MACH_TYPE_MX6Q_SABRELITE Eric Nelson
2012-03-02 23:00   ` Marek Vasut
2012-03-03 10:28   ` Stefano Babic
2012-03-02 22:55 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/3] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: add ext2 support Eric Nelson
2012-03-07  9:36   ` Stefano Babic
2012-03-02 23:01 ` [U-Boot] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: allow use with Freescale 2.6.38 kernels Marek Vasut
2012-03-02 23:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-03-02 23:46   ` Eric Nelson
2012-03-02 23:50     ` Fabio Estevam
2012-03-03  9:33     ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-03-03  6:35   ` Dirk Behme
2012-03-03  9:38     ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-03-03 10:43       ` mailander
2012-03-03 11:32       ` Dirk Behme
2012-03-03 13:30         ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-03-04  1:19           ` Troy Kisky
2012-03-04  8:39             ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-03-07  9:37               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2012-03-04 11:09           ` Stefano Babic
2012-03-04 14:14             ` Igor Grinberg [this message]
2012-03-04 19:45             ` [U-Boot] CONFIG_REVISION (was i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: allow use with Freescale 2.6.38 kernels) Eric Nelson
2012-03-07  8:43               ` Stefano Babic
2012-03-07 15:53                 ` Eric Nelson
2012-03-07 16:32                   ` Stefano Babic
2012-03-03 10:33   ` [U-Boot] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: allow use with Freescale 2.6.38 kernels Stefano Babic

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