From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Nelson Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:37:31 -0700 Subject: [U-Boot] Notes from the U-Boot BOF Meeting in Geneva 2012/07/12 In-Reply-To: <201207240106.19485.marex@denx.de> References: <201207240015.28556.marex@denx.de> <500DD2FA.4060800@boundarydevices.com> <201207240106.19485.marex@denx.de> Message-ID: <500DE03B.9010406@boundarydevices.com> List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: u-boot@lists.denx.de On 07/23/2012 04:06 PM, Marek Vasut wrote: > Dear Eric Nelson, > >>> Yea ... I think our community is kinda broken :-( >> >> Hey. We heard that... >> >> Careful what you say on an open mic! > > Oh man ... I guess it sounded bad indeed, I should have though about the wording > more, sorry. > > I mean, we messed up the management (and I wonder who'll start bashing me for > this one), resulting in the community being misguided sometimes. Making it hard > to learn how to contribute too (too many rules etc). Custodians being > overloaded, warding people off because the review takes too long ... stuff like > that is what I meant. > > So we have too much to improve, yet too less time to do that. > > Ad community, there's a lot of people obviously, who contribute regularly (of > course, such as yourself for example). But I wonder if there's enough of us to > maintain such a big codebase we have. Besides, people care about linux a lot > more than about uboot, pushing many more of the maintaining tasks on custodians. > Or maybe it's the structure that doesn't work well enough to handle the flow. > Honestly, I'm getting lost in it myself. > Hi Marek, I think you misunderstood. I was smiling and laughing when I shot you that note. All of this discussion about process is welcome and positive, and from where I stand, things ain't that broken... U-Boot has a tremendous amount of value to a lot of folks, including those that don't always chime in or feed back. Those of you that focus on it every day deserve kudos. Regards, Eric