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From: Tom Rini <trini@ti.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 10/11] Add u-boot-ubl.bin target to the Makefile
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:51:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50575528.7000606@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1347899242.19543.4@snotra>

On 09/17/12 09:27, Scott Wood wrote:
> On 09/17/2012 04:24:34 AM, Jos? Miguel Gon?alves wrote:
[snip]
>> If no one else has anything against, I will change the name of the new
>> target to u-boot-pad.bin
> 
> What exactly is u-boot-pad.bin supposed to be?  I hope that's not being
> proposed as the final output file the user sees.
> 
> With old nand_spl we had u-boot-nand.bin for the final concatenated
> binary, but that's not appropriate for a generic spl.  I think it would
> be better for the user to see "u-boot.bin" as the actual image to put on
> the boot device, regardless of implementation details like spl, if
> there's no requirement of a specific file format.  The second stage
> could become "u-boot-main.bin" or similar on builds where spl is used.

We need some name that means "U-Boot SPL with U-Boot tacked on at the
end".  This can optionally be padded to a defined size to make writing
to hardware easier.  We also have the problem that "u-boot.bin" already
means something so it needs to be clear.  I further fear that even if we
made an "out" directory if we put u-boot.bin in there and it's not the
same as the objcopy -O binary u-boot u-boot.bin as before we've violated
the rule of least surprise and the end user problems from people that
read "the" document (that happened to be out of date) will be our problem.

In short, at least a few people have said something along the lines of
"We need generic output nameo $mediums and targets" but there's two hard
problems, one of which is that every SoC _needs_ things tweaked just so
(no header? no boot!), sometimes wants things tweaked further (pad the
final image out to be easier to write to $medium) and sometimes needs
multiple files (the whole of 'SPL' will be read so it must fit into
$SMALL_MEMORY).  The other is naming.

I don't want to block this series on this problem.  I do want to say it
needs to use my updated SPL framework or show that it's inadequate (and
I owe another reply to part of this thread still) for this platform.
Call it u-boot.s3c or .s3c24xx and lets continue talking about how to
solve the general problem.

-- 
Tom

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-17 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-14 17:28 [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 00/11] S3C24XX: Add support to MINI2416 board José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 17:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 01/11] ARM: fix relocation on ARM926EJS José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-15 18:03   ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-16  9:45     ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-16 10:06       ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-16 10:16         ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-16 15:36           ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-16 16:26             ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-16 17:17               ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-17  6:28             ` Christian Riesch
2012-09-17  8:34               ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17  9:03                 ` Christian Riesch
2012-09-17  9:20                   ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17 17:18             ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 17:23               ` Scott Wood
2012-09-17 17:32                 ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 17:26               ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-17 17:35                 ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 17:48                   ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-17 18:00                     ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 17:27               ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-10-04 14:24   ` Albert ARIBAUD
2012-09-14 17:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 02/11] S3C24XX: Add core support for Samsung's S3C24XX SoCs José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:03   ` Marek Vasut
     [not found]     ` <505375E3.6050005@inov.pt>
2012-09-14 18:25       ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 19:01         ` Scott Wood
2012-09-14 19:07           ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 19:17             ` Scott Wood
2012-09-14 18:39   ` Tom Rini
2012-09-14 17:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 03/11] serial: Add support to 4 ports in serial_s3c24x0 José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 17:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 04/11] serial: Use a more precise baud rate generation for serial_s3c24x0 José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:05   ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 17:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 05/11] serial: Remove unnecessary delay in serial_s3c24x0 José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:05   ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 17:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 06/11] rtc: Improve rtc_get() on s3c24x0_rtc José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:06   ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 17:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 07/11] rtc: Fix rtc_reset() " José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:07   ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 17:28 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 08/11] rtc: Don't allow setting unsuported years " José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:08   ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 17:29 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 09/11] S3C24XX: Add NAND Flash driver José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:21   ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 18:45     ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 19:01       ` Tom Rini
2012-09-16  9:16         ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17 16:57           ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 17:03             ` Scott Wood
2012-09-17 17:08               ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 17:13                 ` Scott Wood
2012-09-17 17:08             ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17 17:56               ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 18:05                 ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17 18:27                   ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 18:34                     ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17 18:56                       ` Tom Rini
2012-09-14 19:24     ` Scott Wood
2012-09-14 20:20       ` Tom Rini
2012-09-14 20:29         ` Scott Wood
2012-09-17 11:11     ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:47   ` Tom Rini
2012-09-14 17:29 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 10/11] Add u-boot-ubl.bin target to the Makefile José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:22   ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-14 19:08   ` Tom Rini
2012-09-16  9:27     ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17  6:47       ` Christian Riesch
2012-09-17  8:30         ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17  9:10           ` Christian Riesch
2012-09-17  9:24             ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17 14:45               ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 16:29                 ` Marek Vasut
2012-09-17 16:35                   ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 16:27               ` Scott Wood
2012-09-17 16:51                 ` Tom Rini [this message]
2012-09-17 17:32                   ` Scott Wood
2012-09-17 17:53                     ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 18:16                       ` Scott Wood
2012-09-17 19:52                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2012-09-14 17:29 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 11/11] S3C24XX: Add support to MINI2416 board José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-14 18:58   ` Tom Rini
2012-09-16  9:11     ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17 14:39       ` Tom Rini
2012-09-17 14:47         ` José Miguel Gonçalves
2012-09-17 15:11           ` Tom Rini
2012-09-18 12:11             ` José Miguel Gonçalves

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