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From: Stefano Babic <sbabic@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] i.MX: mxc_ipuv3_fb: add ipuv3_fb_shutdown() routine to stop IPU before bootm
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:27:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <505F468D.6030104@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <505F3CF6.3050607@boundarydevices.com>

On 23/09/2012 18:46, Eric Nelson wrote:
> Hi Stefano,
> 
> On 09/23/2012 08:56 AM, Stefano Babic wrote:
>> On 22/09/2012 16:37, Fabio Estevam wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Otavio Salvador
>>> <otavio@ossystems.com.br>  wrote:
>>>> Hello Eric,
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Eric Nelson
>>>> <eric.nelson@boundarydevices.com>  wrote:
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Eric Nelson<eric.nelson@boundarydevices.com>
>>>>
>>>> Did you test it in mx5 too? We seem to need to handle it in mx5 too as
>>>> we had hungs in FSL kernel when using framebuffer in U-Boot. We're
>>>> using a patch in kernel for workaround it but it seems your fix does
>>>> what is need.
>>>
>>> I have just tested Eric's series on a mx53loco and it does fix the
>>> kernel hang issue.
>>>
>>> I made some comments on this series and hopefully Eric's v2 can get
>>> into 2012.10, since this is a bug fix.
>>
>> Ok, I am waiting for V2 and I will push it.
>>
> 
> I'll forward this later today.

Ok

> 
>> Anyway, a question about the issue. It seems to me that it is not
>> possible with IPUV3 (I have not tested myself, so my question) to get
>> the u-boot splashscreen displayed on the LCD until the kernel has
>> finished to boot. This could be possible (and it is possible on other
>> SOC) if the IPU is loaded as module instead of statically linked to the
>> kernel, and if the kernel does not touch the IPU setup. This means also
>> that it should not disable the clocks used by U-Boot for the IPU.
>>
> 
> I'm not sure I understand. The splash screen comes up as soon as
> the call to ipuv3_fb_init() is made (in board_video_skip() in my
> implementation for SABRE Lite).
> 
> As it stands, if we leave the IPU running, we'll see garbage on
> the display as the kernel re-purposes the RAM used by U-Boot's
> frame buffer.

Right, if the kernel reuse the same memory. I am aware that it is not
implemented, I am asking if there some reason to make it impossible.

Some customers want to have a picture shown on the LCD until their
application is running. This makes sense, because the application can
take a lot of time before displaying something on the LCD.

If we reserve some memory for this scope, that is not used by the kernel
later (passing the mem= parameter, for example, or using a .reserve
entry in the board initialization code), we can reach the goal. In
U-Boot we have a single display with 16bit, that means that the memory
consumption is not very high.

> 
>> But I understand from your patch that this way is not possible on
>> iMX53/MX6, and IPU must be always disabled. Is this correct ?
>>
> 
> Sascha responded to a note about this on AKML that the hand-over of
> a live FB isn't a supported kernel use case and it's definitely
> tricky.

And I agree with him, the handover is tricky and not easy, I mean, it
can work with a SOC (it remains tricky..) but not with another one. What
I am saying is not this, but what happens if the IPU is not touched
until the IPU modules are loaded.

> 
> I don't know about the policy, but from a practical matter, the
> IPU frame buffer implementation in U-Boot isn't currently up to
> that task, since:
>     it only supports a single display (i.MX6 can handle 4)
>     it only supports 16bpp
> 
> Additional functionality would be helpful here.

Agree with you. And this is the reason I am not supposing that the
kernel takes the IPU setup made by U-Boot. It could be a nightmare.

> 
> I would like to see a handoff of display settings from U-Boot to
> the kernel, but that's also a tricky thing as long as we're supporting
> different mechanisms (DT in main-line and kernel parameters in
> older kernels).

Yes, and a lot of other things. I know Anatolji implemented this
behavior for a PPC5121, but we cannot generalize. I agree that the
handoff is difficult and not maintainable. My question is different: if
the IPU drivers in kernel are compiled as modules, and I will load them
only after booting, and the framebuffer's memory is reserved so that the
kernel does not touch it, is there still a known reason because the IPU
should not run when we boot the kernel? I know this issue with USB,
maybe we have now the same with the IPU.

Note: this has nothing to do with this patch ;-). I will merge it into
the current release when you push V2.

Best regards,
Stefano

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-23 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-21 16:38 [U-Boot] Disabling video in bootm (cleanup_before_linux) Eric Nelson
2012-09-21 17:22 ` Anatolij Gustschin
2012-09-21 17:44   ` Eric Nelson
2012-09-22 13:35     ` Otavio Salvador
2012-09-22 15:35       ` Eric Nelson
2012-09-22 15:37         ` Otavio Salvador
2012-09-21 20:36   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/2] i.MX: ipufb: shut down IPU frame buffer before booting O/S Eric Nelson
2012-09-21 20:36     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] i.MX: mxc_ipuv3_fb: add ipuv3_fb_shutdown() routine to stop IPU before bootm Eric Nelson
2012-09-22 13:42       ` Otavio Salvador
2012-09-22 14:37         ` Fabio Estevam
2012-09-22 14:39           ` Otavio Salvador
2012-09-23 15:56           ` Stefano Babic
2012-09-23 16:32             ` Dirk Behme
2012-09-23 16:46             ` Eric Nelson
2012-09-23 16:59               ` Fabio Estevam
2012-09-23 17:27               ` Stefano Babic [this message]
2012-09-23 18:13                 ` [U-Boot] Displays on i.MX (was Re: [PATCH 1/2]) Eric Nelson
2012-09-23 20:12                   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH] i2c_probe: update for use in scripting Eric Nelson
2012-10-16  3:58                     ` Heiko Schocher
2012-09-23 23:02                   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/3] i.MX6: implement hdmidet command Eric Nelson
2012-09-23 23:02                     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] i.MX6: add HDMI transmitter register declarations from kernel WIP Eric Nelson
2012-09-23 23:02                     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/3] i.MX6: Add hdmidet command to detect attached HDMI monitor Eric Nelson
2012-09-23 23:02                     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/3] i.MX6: mx6qsabrelite: Include hdmidet command Eric Nelson
2012-10-02  8:28                     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/3] i.MX6: implement " Stefano Babic
2012-09-23 18:15                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] i.MX: mxc_ipuv3_fb: add ipuv3_fb_shutdown() routine to stop IPU before bootm Sascha Hauer
2012-09-23 17:30               ` [U-Boot] [PATCH V2 0/2] i.MX: ipufb: shut down IPU frame buffer before booting Eric Nelson
2012-09-23 17:30                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH V2 1/2] i.MX: mxc_ipuv3_fb: add ipuv3_fb_shutdown() routine to stop IPU frame buffer Eric Nelson
2012-09-24  8:50                   ` Stefano Babic
2012-09-23 17:30                 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH V2 2/2] i.MX: shut down video before launch of O/S Eric Nelson
2012-09-24  8:50                   ` Stefano Babic
2012-09-21 20:36     ` [U-Boot] [PATCH " Eric Nelson
2012-09-21 22:41       ` Fabio Estevam
2012-09-21 23:02         ` Eric Nelson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-09-21 20:56 [U-Boot] [PATCH] i.MX6: set drive strength for parallel RGB pads Eric Nelson
2012-09-21 20:56 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] i.MX: mxc_ipuv3_fb: add ipuv3_fb_shutdown() routine to stop IPU before bootm Eric Nelson
2012-09-21 21:00   ` Eric Nelson

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