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From: Tom Rini <trini@ti.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/4] common: imx: Implement generic u-boot.nand target
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:53:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <512FA7B1.3030807@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201302281950.03523.marex@denx.de>

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On 02/28/2013 01:50 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
> Dear Tom Rini,
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:33:52PM +0100, Beno??t Th??baudeau
>> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:19:42 AM, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>> Dear Beno??t Th??baudeau,
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Scott Wood,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:07:25 AM, Scott Wood
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 02/25/2013 05:03:30 PM, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Scott Wood,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So maybe we need a more general (but optional) 
>>>>>>>> CONFIG_BUILD_TARGET.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can you elaborate?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Same as CONFIG_SPL_TARGET, but not SPL-specific.
>>>>>> Basically a way for a board config file to add to
>>>>>> $(ALL-y).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So each one would set the appropriate
>>>>>>>> CONFIG_BUILD_TARGET for
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> needs to get built, and then something like
>>>>>>>> CONFIG_NAND_IMAGE could hold the image name that
>>>>>>>> should be linked to produce a standard
>>>>>>>> u-boot-nand.bin output.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yea, sounds reasonable. But why call it CONFIG_ , it
>>>>>>> can't be stored in the board.h files, it has to be
>>>>>>> somewhere in the Makefile hierarchy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why can't it go in the board.h files?
>>>>> 
>>>>> We could do all that, but should we? As I said to Marek, I
>>>>> think that it's a big mistake to omit the SPL here. The
>>>>> only other solution to get a reliable boot would be the
>>>>> DBBT, but it's very hard to use in real life, away from a
>>>>> production line. The SPL is really easy to enable here, and
>>>>> it's only a matter of time before someone gets bitten by
>>>>> this lack of reliability, so why not just do things right? 
>>>>> The boot time and footprint of an SPL would really be
>>>>> negligible, and it's not because other implementations omit
>>>>> both SPL and a valid DBBT that U-Boot should do the same.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not against SPL, but then we're starting to drift away
>>>> from the whole idea of generating u-boot-nand.bin or similar
>>>> image. Being able to generate u-boot- nand.bin or
>>>> u-boot-sd.bin etc ... on a per-CPU basis (since this is CPU 
>>>> specific) is the ultimate goal here, whatever is embedded in
>>>> the image.
>>> 
>>> OK, I didn't know that this was your goal here. If the contents
>>> of the image do not matter, then my u-boot-with-nand-spl.imx
>>> could be renamed into your u-boot-nand.bin with the appropriate
>>> FCB header, and CONFIG_SPL_TARGET could be changed to something
>>> more generic as Scott explained.
>> 
>> I wonder how the rules start looking.  In the end, some way to
>> say "Here is the image to write to NAND, called u-boot-nand.bin"
>> which will have whatever board needs (say spl/u-boot-spl.bin +
>> some header attached followed by pad, followed by u-boot.img).
>> And also allow for u-boot-nand.bin to be what someone else needs
>> (say a different header on u-boot-spl.bin), etc.
> 
> They'd be CPU specific rules, so that depends on the CPU really.

Yes, they'd have to have a level of granularity (and
cross-sharability) to them.  Which is why I wonder how it would all
look, since it needs to look on the clean side.  I'm expressing a
desire to use these rules on non-Freescale parts right away, so long
as the infrastructure is done right.

- -- 
Tom
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-28 18:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-25 18:19 [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/4] common: imx: Implement generic u-boot.nand target Marek Vasut
2013-02-25 18:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/4] imx: Align the imximage header and payload to multiples of 4k Marek Vasut
2013-02-25 19:13   ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-25 21:07     ` Marek Vasut
2013-02-25 21:16       ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-25 18:19 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/4] mx5: Add NAND clock handling Marek Vasut
2013-02-25 19:27   ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-25 18:24 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/4] mx5: Add support for DENX M53EVK Marek Vasut
2013-02-25 19:33   ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-26 13:52   ` Fabio Estevam
2013-02-26 19:32   ` Fabio Estevam
2013-04-14 17:20     ` Marek Vasut
2013-04-14 19:07       ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-04-14 19:18         ` Marek Vasut
2013-02-25 18:51 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/4] common: imx: Implement generic u-boot.nand target Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-25 21:09   ` Marek Vasut
2013-02-25 21:13     ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-26  1:02   ` [U-Boot] patch error wanxs
2013-02-25 20:10 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/4] common: imx: Implement generic u-boot.nand target Scott Wood
2013-02-25 21:10   ` Marek Vasut
2013-02-25 22:15     ` Scott Wood
2013-02-25 23:03       ` Marek Vasut
2013-02-25 23:07         ` Scott Wood
2013-02-25 23:50           ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-26  7:19             ` Marek Vasut
2013-02-26 11:33               ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-27 17:33                 ` Tom Rini
2013-02-28 18:50                   ` Marek Vasut
2013-02-28 18:53                     ` Tom Rini [this message]
2013-02-26  7:17           ` Marek Vasut
2013-02-26 23:10             ` Scott Wood
2013-02-27 22:18 ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-27 23:44   ` Tom Rini
2013-02-27 23:47     ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-28 12:18       ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-28 14:03   ` Tom Rini
2013-02-28 15:24     ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-28 16:06       ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-28 16:21         ` Tom Rini
2013-02-28 16:29           ` Benoît Thébaudeau
2013-02-28 16:42             ` Tom Rini

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