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From: Tom Rini <trini@ti.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC] command/cache: Add flush_cache command
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:19:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514C92BD.7030907@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1363970929.24790.3@snotra>

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On 03/22/2013 12:48 PM, Scott Wood wrote:
> On 03/22/2013 09:29:04 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
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>> On 03/22/2013 10:03 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>>> Dear Tom,
>>> 
>>> In message <514C4BE8.10508@ti.com> you wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It seems like we're going around and around with one point 
>>>> not being addressed.  When using 'go', how do you know the 
>>>> size to flush?  And since Scott is talking about performance
>>>>  testing apps, the cache should not be disabled (unless we 
>>>> expect all standalone apps to enable the cache, in which case
>>>> we need to provide something in the jump table to make that
>>>> easy and document this change).
>>> 
>>> I also wonder about this. To me it appears much easier to use
>>> a IH_TYPE_STANDALONE image, which 1) provides the needed size 
>>> information and 2) can be used with bootm, so the required 
>>> additional steps (flush caches, release CPU) can be handled in 
>>> bootm subcommands.
>> 
>> But that then circles us back to Scott's other point of "go" is 
>> broken then and it is the recommended way to start standalone 
>> applications.
>> 
>> Now, if we want to change things and say that no, you can't just
>>  run totally raw binaries reliably with "go" but instead need to
>>  throw some form of header on top of them, how portable, really,
>>  is mkimage? We've just made that a required part of the
>> work-flow for anyone doing development that's not producing ELF
>> or something else already boot*'able.  That might be a rather
>> large pool I suspect.
>> 
>> Scott, part of the problem here is that we have multiple cores, 
>> yes? Say core0 is the one that read things in from NOR to DDR, 
>> core1 is the one that will be running things.  How about we make
>>  flush_cache depend on CONFIG_MP || CONFIG_CMD_CACHE_FLUSH ? It's
>>  a likely required often thing for CONFIG_MP systems and anyone 
>> else that needs it can opt-in.
> 
> Multiple CPUs may make it more likely to see problems on some 
> hardware, but architecturally on PPC the flush is required even 
> with a single CPU.  Icache fetches won't snoop the dcache.
> 
> Can we have it depend on a new config symbol, so it's not bloating 
> anyone's U-Boot who doesn't want it, and deal with improvements to 
> recommended standalone app workflow as a separate issue?  We're not
> talking about a huge amount of code here, just exposing 
> functionality that U-Boot already has internally.

Works for me.

- -- 
Tom
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-22 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-19 20:29 [U-Boot] [RFC] command/cache: Add flush_cache command York Sun
2013-03-19 22:01 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-19 22:07   ` York Sun
2013-03-19 23:32     ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 13:59       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 14:58         ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 16:43           ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 17:38             ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 18:16               ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 19:15             ` Tom Rini
2013-03-20 19:36               ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 19:59                 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-20 21:31                   ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21  5:42                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21  5:39                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 12:29                     ` Tom Rini
2013-03-21 13:37                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 18:22                         ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 19:25                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 20:34                             ` Scott Wood
2013-03-22  6:30                               ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-22 12:17                                 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 14:03                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-22 14:29                                     ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 15:57                                       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-22 16:48                                       ` Scott Wood
2013-03-22 17:19                                         ` Tom Rini [this message]
2013-03-22 20:39                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 22:11                 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 22:35                   ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 23:33                     ` Michael Cashwell
2013-03-20 23:48                       ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21  0:27                         ` Michael Cashwell
2013-03-21  0:31                           ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21  5:02                             ` Sricharan R
2013-03-21 18:51                               ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 17:58                     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-21 18:07                       ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 19:21                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 19:40               ` York Sun
2013-03-20 14:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 16:44   ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 14:02 ` Jim Chargin
2013-04-18 17:09   ` Scott Wood

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