From: Heiko Schocher <hs@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2C framework
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:31:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F8CB50.4070004@denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130731101636.059ad6de@lilith>
Hello Albert,
Am 31.07.2013 10:16, schrieb Albert ARIBAUD:
> Hi Heiko,
>
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:36:19 +0200, Heiko Schocher<hs@denx.de> wrote:
>
>>> On the other hand, it may be hard to immediately know what functions
>>> throughout U-boot are safe to call from within board_init_f(); maybe we
>>> should start thinking about checking and marking these, the simplest
>>> way being to suffix them with "_f" once we have made sure they are safe
>>> to call from within board_init_f().
>>
>> Hmmm... Maybe instead we should think (also in thinking common bring
>> up for all boards) about:
>>
>> getting rid of board_init_f in u-boot code, instead use for all
>> boards spl code to init needed things and copy and relocate u-boot
>> to ram in spl code ... so we have in u-boot no longer such
>> restictions ... but thats just an idea which whirs in my head ...
>> without thinking to deep in it.
>>
>> But this approach would have some advantages ...
>
> Well, the original SPL was basically board_init_f() plus some code to
> copy U-Boot from wherever it was to DDR, so it was tightly linked to
> board_init_f(). But... first, SPL has evolved into a "U-Boot lite"
> where much can happen beyond board_init_f() -- think Falcon mode, for
> instance -- and second, there are boards which do not have SPL at all,
> and their board_init_f() can thus not be "moved to SPL".
Hmm... all boards use board_init_f ... and spl do pieces from board_init_f
So why should it not be possible to do all init things in spl code?
Code beyond board_init_f is optional ...
And yes, there are a lot of boards, which have no spl, but they
can execute spl code (thinking of the lof of powerpc boards which
booting from nor flash ... spl code can also run from nor ... and
copy the u-boot piece of the image to ram, relocate it ...)
And yes, a side effect could be, that all boards can use Falcon boot mode.
;-)
> So no, I don't think we can move U-Boot's design from "_f/_r" to
> "SPL/U-Boot".
I am not sure ...
>>> But we should strictly limit the scope of board_init_f() or we'll find
>>> the board_init_f()/board_init_r() pair following a patch similar to the
>>> SPL/U-Boot pair, where SPL started out as a tiny helper piece of code
>>> and ending up a resizeable (and, I dare to say, sizeable as well) kind
>>> of U-boot. If we let too many features slip in board_init_f(), it'll
>>> blur into a board_init_r() like and before we know it, it'll *require*
>>> DDR, and write access to it too...
>>>
>>> So, board_init_() should *strictly* be limited to setting up a console
>>> (for information purposes) and giving access to DDR while in the same
>>> time never writing to it itself. Bonus points if it can limit itself to
>>> *enabling* and postpone any *optimizing*(I am thinking of DDR settings
>>> here and no, I don't have specific existing cases in mind; just sayin').
>>>
>>> In the present instance, I'd rather we either:
>>>
>>> - removed dependency on DT etc. by using "hard-coded" low level I2C
>>> reads for those boards that need it (I assume that for each of these
>>> boards the I2C slave, offset, and length to read are constant) in _f
>>> phase, or
>>
>> But DT is used for initializing the i2c driver in tegra ...
>
> Alright, out goes this proposal. Anyway, I didn't like it best. :)
Yes.
>>> - parsed the _f phase looking for offending functions or calls which
>>> write to .data or .bss and fix them, suffixing them with _f; in
>>> essence, that amounts to starting the implementation of my suggestion
>>> above alongside fixing the issue at hand.
>>>
>>> The first approach is rather "let's bring the thing back up first", so
>>> it does not have my preference, but I would understand the need to
>>> quickly fix things.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> The second approach seems to be going in the same direction as Heiko's
>>> proposal of 07:52 +0200, which I thus second provided it is applicable
>>> to all the boards Wolfgang had in mind.
>>
>> Lets do us this step as fixup ;-)
>
> Alright too. :)
Ok.
@Stephen, Simon: Could anyone from you do this 2 steps?
bye,
Heiko
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-31 8:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-04 12:01 [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Bring in new I2C framework Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 1/9] i2c: add i2c_core and prepare for new multibus support Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 2/9] i2c: common changes for multibus/multiadapter support Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 16:39 ` Daniel Schwierzeck
2013-05-07 13:05 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-11 21:17 ` Simon Glass
2013-05-13 4:47 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-11 21:33 ` Simon Glass
2013-05-13 5:41 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 3/9] i2c, soft-i2c: switch to new " Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 4/9] i2c, fsl_i2c: " Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 5/9] i2c, multibus: get rid of CONFIG_I2C_MUX Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 12:23 ` Holger Brunck
2013-05-06 13:57 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 6/9] i2c, multibus, keymile: get rid of EEprom_ivm envvariable Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 12:24 ` Holger Brunck
2013-05-06 13:58 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 7/9] tegra: i2c: Add function to know about current bus Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2C framework Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 19:08 ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-07 8:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2Cframework Marc Dietrich
2013-05-07 14:55 ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-07 16:17 ` Simon Glass
2013-05-08 4:11 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-07 13:07 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 8/9] tegra: i2c: Enable new CONFIG_SYS_I2C framework Heiko Schocher
[not found] ` <5FBF8E85CA34454794F0F7ECBA79798F37ACAFEF3F@HQMAIL04.nvidia.com>
2013-05-07 13:12 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-29 16:12 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 4:28 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-30 4:34 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 18:56 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 4:29 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-30 19:22 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 20:00 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:21 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 21:32 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:46 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 21:51 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 22:05 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31 5:46 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 19:31 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 4:32 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 5:39 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 6:02 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 6:53 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-08-01 8:38 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 14:22 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-01 15:06 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-01 20:16 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-08-02 19:32 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-01 20:14 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-08-01 20:34 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 20:32 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-02 4:40 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-02 19:35 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-02 21:43 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-03 3:55 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-05 15:40 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-05 17:28 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 20:12 ` Simon Glass
2013-08-05 20:15 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 17:59 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 22:09 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-30 22:11 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31 5:18 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-07-31 5:55 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 7:06 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-31 7:36 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 8:16 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-31 8:31 ` Heiko Schocher [this message]
2013-07-31 9:38 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-07-31 12:30 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31 13:03 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 19:41 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-01 4:32 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 19:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-07-31 5:52 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-07-31 5:03 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-08-05 19:21 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 20:08 ` Tom Rini
2013-08-05 21:06 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-05 23:18 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:19 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-30 21:21 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 21:45 ` Simon Glass
2013-07-31 5:01 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-04 12:01 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 9/9] i2c, ppc4xx_i2c: switch to new multibus/multiadapter support Heiko Schocher
2013-05-06 6:52 ` Stefan Roese
2013-05-06 8:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH v3 0/9] Bring in new I2C framework Dirk Eibach
2013-05-06 14:11 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-05-17 13:17 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-05-18 17:41 ` Simon Glass
2013-05-20 6:13 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-19 22:07 ` Simon Glass
2013-06-20 3:38 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20 5:50 ` Minkyu Kang
2013-06-20 6:41 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-20 7:14 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20 8:34 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-20 9:19 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20 5:52 ` Piotr Wilczek
2013-06-20 6:52 ` Dirk Eibach
2013-06-20 7:59 ` Heiko Schocher
2013-06-20 8:20 ` Dirk Eibach
2013-06-20 9:11 ` Heiko Schocher
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