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From: "Andreas Bießmann" <andreas.devel@googlemail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] Chain loading an u-boot from an u-boot
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:14:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F8C2B5.60509@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52F8B3F5.8050101@hale.at>

Dear Helmut Raiger,

On 02/10/2014 12:11 PM, Helmut Raiger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>     to give you some background why we would want to do something
> (strange) like this:
> 
> - we have a hardware design bug
> - we have a few hundred i.MX31 TT-01 devices in the field
> - the i.MX31 rom boot loader is only capable of using 1bit HW-ECC
> (loading the first page (2k) from the NAND)
> - the NAND chip specifies a requirement of 1bit ECC for the first 128kB
> (PEB) and 4bit ECC for the rest
> - our current u-boot uses 1-bit HW-ECC, the kernel uses UBIFS and 1bit
> HW-ECC

D'oh!

> - we face increasing bit errors in the field in the PEBs used by u-boot.
> 
> Using UBIFS in the kernel mitigates the requirements of 4bit ECC for the
> whole NAND because it moves
> PEBs when bit errors show up. The real problem is the area where u-boot
> is located (currently approx. 450kB,
> including UBIFS, USB ethernet support and more ..).

I wouldn't say it is a good solution to have 1 bit ecc on NAND that
requires 4 bit, even though there is another layer reacting on bit
errors. I guess your BBT will increase significant in a very short time.

> So the idea was:
> 
> - use a small u-boot (<128kB) in the first PEB of the NAND (written with
> 1bit HW-ECC) that supports 4bit BCH

How about using SPL here? I don't know the freescale universe but wonder
if SPL is fixed to 2k. Building SPL with SW BCH in less than 2k seems
not doable for me.

> - let it load a second u-boot (<512kB) from the next 4 PEBs (written
> with 4bit BCH)
> - jump to the second u-boot and load the kernel from an UBI volume using
> 1bit HW-ECC again
> 
> I did all that and it seemed to work just fine, but jumping to the
> second u-boot almost always
> crashes the system. In detail we do:
> 
> - romboot loads the SPL (2kb)
> - SPL loads the first u-boot stage (which relocates and runs nicely)
> - the first u-boot 'boots' the second u-boot by loading it from the NAND
> - the second u-boot is loaded to the link address minus 2kB (for SPL)
> - this is the same for the first and the second u-boot  (link address
> 0x87e00000 - 0x800 = 0x87dff800)

The offset is about 125MiB, current mainline code tells me, that the
tt-01 board has just 128 MiB. It is likely your second uboot overwrites
the code of your first one while copying. You should link your code to
run at a far away address, maybe 0x80000000 ;)

> - it jumps to 0x87e00000 omitting the SPL for the second u-boot
> - the second u-boot should relocated itself again
> 
> The second u-boot is verified in RAM with crc32 and it is valid.
> 
> I've tested many configuration and found, that it only works if both
> u-boots are identical:
> 
> - different builds of the same code work (different build date, but same
> code)
> - different configurations never work
> - it does not matter if cashes are turned on or off
> - I skipped the relocation of the second u-boot (actually not necessary)
> to no avail
> 
> I also tried u-boot standalone applications which always work (after
> fixing a bug in u-boot r8<->r9 for gd),
> again independent of cashes.
> Using different configuration I never get any serial output of the
> second u-boot (board info) or debugging stuff.
> If I set a breakpoint in the second u-boot (after relocation) and
> continue from there it works until it tries
> to get the SPI clock (mxc_get_clock() when accessing CCM_CCMR) for the
> PMIC access.
> If I throw in a mxc_dump_clocks() earlier it hangs there.

Well, it may be related to some freescale interna I do not know. However
It is likely that you really overwrite the first u-boot version with the
second one.

> 
> I'm pretty much running out of ideas, so any pointers are appreciated.

Hope it helps ...

Best regards

Andreas Bie?mann

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-10 11:11 [U-Boot] Chain loading an u-boot from an u-boot Helmut Raiger
2014-02-10 12:14 ` Andreas Bießmann [this message]
2014-02-10 12:57   ` Helmut Raiger
2014-02-12 21:59     ` Scott Wood
2014-02-13  9:45       ` Helmut Raiger
2014-02-11  9:38 ` Stefano Babic
2014-02-12  9:56   ` Helmut Raiger
2014-02-12 10:41     ` Stefano Babic
2014-02-12 10:45     ` Andreas Bießmann
2014-02-13  9:03       ` Helmut Raiger
2014-03-31 11:29         ` Helmut Raiger
2014-04-03 23:13           ` Simon Glass
2014-04-04  9:25             ` Stefano Babic
2014-04-09 14:07               ` Helmut Raiger

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