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From: Helmut Raiger <helmut.raiger@hale.at>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] Chain loading an u-boot from an u-boot
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:57:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F8CCD0.8040102@hale.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52F8C2B5.60509@gmail.com>

On 02/10/2014 01:14 PM, Andreas Bie?mann wrote:
> - we have a hardware design bug
> - we have a few hundred i.MX31 TT-01 devices in the field
> - the i.MX31 rom boot loader is only capable of using 1bit HW-ECC
> (loading the first page (2k) from the NAND)
> - the NAND chip specifies a requirement of 1bit ECC for the first 128kB
> (PEB) and 4bit ECC for the rest
> - our current u-boot uses 1-bit HW-ECC, the kernel uses UBIFS and 1bit
> HW-ECC
> D'oh!
just about what I thought ...
> - we face increasing bit errors in the field in the PEBs used by u-boot.
>
> Using UBIFS in the kernel mitigates the requirements of 4bit ECC for the
> whole NAND because it moves
> PEBs when bit errors show up. The real problem is the area where u-boot
> is located (currently approx. 450kB,
> including UBIFS, USB ethernet support and more ..).
> I wouldn't say it is a good solution to have 1 bit ecc on NAND that
> requires 4 bit, even though there is another layer reacting on bit
> errors. I guess your BBT will increase significant in a very short time.
Most operations are read (we use a separate YAFFS partition for time 
predictable writes),
so UBI will relocate read-only blocks anyway (due to read disturbances), 
I think the
effect wont be too dramatic, but don't make me proof that ;-)

>> So the idea was:
>>
>> - use a small u-boot (<128kB) in the first PEB of the NAND (written with
>> 1bit HW-ECC) that supports 4bit BCH
> How about using SPL here? I don't know the freescale universe but wonder
> if SPL is fixed to 2k. Building SPL with SW BCH in less than 2k seems
> not doable for me.
SPL on i.MX31 is limited to 2kB so we can't use BCH 4 here, just as you 
guessed.


>> - let it load a second u-boot (<512kB) from the next 4 PEBs (written
>> with 4bit BCH)
>> - jump to the second u-boot and load the kernel from an UBI volume using
>> 1bit HW-ECC again
>>
>> I did all that and it seemed to work just fine, but jumping to the
>> second u-boot almost always
>> crashes the system. In detail we do:
>>
>> - romboot loads the SPL (2kb)
>> - SPL loads the first u-boot stage (which relocates and runs nicely)
>> - the first u-boot 'boots' the second u-boot by loading it from the NAND
>> - the second u-boot is loaded to the link address minus 2kB (for SPL)
>> - this is the same for the first and the second u-boot  (link address
>> 0x87e00000 - 0x800 = 0x87dff800)
> The offset is about 125MiB, current mainline code tells me, that the
> tt-01 board has just 128 MiB. It is likely your second uboot overwrites
> the code of your first one while copying. You should link your code to
> run at a far away address, maybe 0x80000000 ;)
We have 256MiB (not yet contributed).
First u-boot is loaded to 0x87e00000, then relocates to 0x8f... something.
Second u-booot is loaded to 0x87e00000 again and relocates to 0x8f...,
the same locations for both, the second u-boot is verified in RAM before 
jumping to it.
If I set a breakpoint in the do_go_exec() I can step right into the
second u-boot.
> Well, it may be related to some freescale interna I do not know. However
> It is likely that you really overwrite the first u-boot version with the
>
You'd be right for 128MiB!
I'll try to crc32 the relocated area of the first u-boot, anyway.

The strange thing is that the serial output does not show up unless I
set breakpoints. This might be pointing to some clock setup problem?!

Thx for caring,
Helmut

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-10 11:11 [U-Boot] Chain loading an u-boot from an u-boot Helmut Raiger
2014-02-10 12:14 ` Andreas Bießmann
2014-02-10 12:57   ` Helmut Raiger [this message]
2014-02-12 21:59     ` Scott Wood
2014-02-13  9:45       ` Helmut Raiger
2014-02-11  9:38 ` Stefano Babic
2014-02-12  9:56   ` Helmut Raiger
2014-02-12 10:41     ` Stefano Babic
2014-02-12 10:45     ` Andreas Bießmann
2014-02-13  9:03       ` Helmut Raiger
2014-03-31 11:29         ` Helmut Raiger
2014-04-03 23:13           ` Simon Glass
2014-04-04  9:25             ` Stefano Babic
2014-04-09 14:07               ` Helmut Raiger

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