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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 1/3] add file with a default boot environment based heavily on Stephen Warrens recent tegra work.
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:43:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53050975.7050607@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140219193614.GB19081@bill-the-cat>

On 02/19/2014 12:36 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
...
> I would put a generic distro knowing how to deal, genericially at least,
> with NAND on par with knowing how to deal with HW RAID or other not too
> uncommon desktop features.  If /dev/mtdblockN then offer UBI or a few
> other choices, else if /dev/sd* then offer ext* or btrfs or a few other

But how do /dev/mtdblockN get into existence? MTD partitions have
historically been defined on the kernel command-line haven't they, and
hence it'd require a board-specific cmdline to support that. Hmmm.
Perhaps they can be specified in DT nowadays? If so, then NAND should
indeed be pretty easy to deal with.

> One thing this series does have to cope with, some way or another, is to
> be able to say "Oh, you have other boot devices too, we must handle them
> somehow".  With my TI custodian hat on, it would be quite handy for
> Beaglebone to use this and have Fedora/SuSE/etc/etc "just work" but it's
> going to make me quite grumpy if I can't also easily support AM335x GP
> EVM and its NAND and I start to worry if QSPI, which I have a feeling is
> going to take off like eMMC did, is going to just get ignored and when
> Rasberry Cream Pi or Beaglebone Metalic Purple comes out with QSPI
> on-board we don't start kicking ourselves again.

I assume QSPI would be just the system boot flash, and not for
filesystem storage? As a general rule, I assert that distros shouldn't
have to know anything about installing/updating bootloaders; that should
be something that happens before you attempt to use a distro installer,
and most likely uses board-/SoC-specific tools. If QSPI is filesystem
storage, then assuming it shows up like any other block device, it
should work out just like NAND as we discussed above.

Exceptions might be e.g. the Raspberry Pi and some of the Beagle* boards
which require the firmware in a partition on the SD card, since there's
no other storage device. Still, hopefully that's as simple as detecting
the specific board based on DT compatible value, and installing a
particular extra package for it.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-19 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-17 17:56 [U-Boot] RFC unified boot environment Dennis Gilmore
2014-02-17 17:56 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 1/3] add file with a default boot environment based heavily on Stephen Warrens recent tegra work Dennis Gilmore
2014-02-19 13:42   ` Tom Rini
2014-02-19 13:57     ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-02-19 15:54   ` Marek Vasut
2014-02-19 17:28     ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 17:30       ` Marek Vasut
2014-02-19 17:41         ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 17:44           ` Marek Vasut
2014-02-19 17:40   ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-22  8:20     ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-02-24 18:40       ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-24 20:07         ` Tom Rini
2014-02-19 18:44   ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 18:48     ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 18:52       ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 18:57         ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 18:59           ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 19:04             ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 19:10               ` Tom Rini
2014-02-19 19:16                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 19:36                   ` Tom Rini
2014-02-19 19:43                     ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2014-02-19 19:57                       ` Tom Rini
2014-02-19 20:10                       ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-02-19 19:32               ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 19:38                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 20:03                   ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 19:02           ` Eric Nelson
2014-02-19 19:05             ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 19:16               ` Tom Rini
2014-02-19 19:24                 ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 19:29                   ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 19:37                     ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 19:43                       ` Tom Rini
2014-02-19 19:41                     ` Tom Rini
2014-02-19 21:20                       ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2014-02-20 12:31                       ` Otavio Salvador
2014-02-20 13:46                         ` Tom Rini
2014-02-22 12:56                           ` Otavio Salvador
2014-02-17 17:56 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 2/3] move the beaglebones over to the generic configs Dennis Gilmore
2014-02-19 13:52   ` Tom Rini
2014-02-19 17:46   ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 19:57   ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 19:58     ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 20:05     ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 20:20       ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 20:22         ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 20:31           ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 20:38             ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-19 20:58               ` Dan Murphy
2014-02-19 21:07             ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-02-17 17:56 ` [U-Boot] [RFC PATCH 3/3] move wandboard over to use the generic distro configuratin and environment Dennis Gilmore
2014-02-19 11:52   ` Otavio Salvador
2014-02-19 17:50   ` Stephen Warren
2014-02-18 10:18 ` [U-Boot] RFC unified boot environment Stefano Babic
2014-02-18 16:09   ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-02-19 13:33     ` Tom Rini
2014-03-20 22:12 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/6] " Dennis Gilmore
2014-03-20 22:12   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/6] add README.distro file Dennis Gilmore
2014-03-21 18:48     ` Tom Rini
2014-03-25 20:40       ` Stephen Warren
2014-03-25 20:24     ` Stephen Warren
2014-03-28 15:42       ` Tom Rini
2014-03-28 16:11         ` Stephen Warren
2014-03-28 16:25           ` Tom Rini
2014-03-20 22:12   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/6] add header with a generic set of boot commands defined Dennis Gilmore
2014-03-21 18:37     ` Marek Vasut
2014-03-21 18:53       ` Tom Rini
2014-03-21 21:00         ` Marek Vasut
2014-03-21 18:48     ` Tom Rini
2014-03-25 20:38       ` Stephen Warren
2014-03-25 20:36     ` Stephen Warren
2014-03-20 22:12   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/6] move wandboard over to use the generic distro configuation and environment Dennis Gilmore
2014-03-20 22:12   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/6] move beagleboard " Dennis Gilmore
2014-03-21 18:48     ` Tom Rini
2014-03-20 22:13   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/6] move pandaboard " Dennis Gilmore
2014-03-21 18:49     ` Tom Rini
2014-03-20 22:13   ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/6] pxe: additionaly check for fdt_file env variable Dennis Gilmore
2014-03-21 18:49     ` Tom Rini
2014-03-25 20:45     ` Stephen Warren

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