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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] config: introduce a generic $bootcmd
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:04:28 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53E905AC.9050903@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53E90294.7060604@myspectrum.nl>

On 08/11/2014 11:51 AM, Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
> Hello Stephan
>
> On 11-08-14 18:53, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 08/10/2014 10:53 AM, Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
>>> Hello Stephan,
>>>
>>> On 10-08-14 05:11, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> The entire point of this series is to prevent distros from having to
>>>> install bootloader-specific boot configuration files.
>> >
>>> I fail to see why this is something to pursue. Since the distro knows
>>> the boot path, why should u-boot be polling all possible options?
>>
>> This patch series allows U-Boot to find the OS and boot it. U-Boot is
>> searching for some kind of boot configuration file.
>>
>> This part of the process is the same as the BIOS searching all known
>> possible boot devices for a partition marked bootable, and with a
>> valid MBR. Or, it's the same as UEFI searching all possible boot
>> devices for whatever config file or boot binary is mandated by UEFI.
>
> Not in my mind, I am not against scanning the possible
> boot devices, on the contrary, I am trying to add booting
> the userland from usb instead of mmc for the rpi_b.

The following will tell U-Boot to only search USB for extlinux.conf.

setenv boot_targets usb

(you can put this into /uEnv.txt on the SD card if you want to avoid 
editing U-Boot source code to make this change; there's no persistent 
environment storage on the Pi, at least at the moment)

 > The
> part I dislike is where it starts searching for specific files.
> The equivalent would be your BIOS actively searching for GRUB,
> LILO, Windows Boot manager etc. etc. and as a fallback
> try the MBR.
...
>> Once U-Boot locates extlinux.conf or boot.scr, that file encodes what
>> files (kernel, DTB, initrd)
>
> This is the part I get for free now with it, I don't really like it,
> since if we take this road it ends up looking for e.g. grub.conf,
> ubldr.conf, vxworks.conf etc etc.

No, Linux distros need to be able to install a single bootloader 
configuration file to tell the bootloader how to boot. I definitely 
don't want to add support for a ton of other bootloader configuration 
file formats. There needs to be a single standard that distros know they 
can rely on.

> Also in this case the downstream provides information back,
> albeit tiny, it does indicate if it is bootable and a label to explain
> what is bootable.

I don't understand what that means.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-11 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-30 22:37 [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] config: introduce a generic $bootcmd Stephen Warren
2014-07-30 22:37 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/3] ARM: tegra: use new " Stephen Warren
2014-08-08 16:02   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-10 22:23   ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,2/3] " Tom Rini
2014-07-30 22:37 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/3] ARM: rpi_b: " Stephen Warren
2014-08-08  0:18   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-10 22:23   ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,3/3] " Tom Rini
2014-07-31  1:55 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] config: introduce a " Marek Vasut
2014-07-31 10:47 ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-31 15:30   ` Stephen Warren
2014-07-31 22:03 ` Simon Glass
2014-07-31 23:00   ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-04 10:13     ` Simon Glass
2014-08-04 11:58       ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-08-04 18:04       ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-05 12:27         ` Simon Glass
2014-08-05 16:11           ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-06 16:01 ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-06 16:56   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-08  0:17     ` Simon Glass
2014-08-08 16:00       ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-09 15:02         ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-09 21:55           ` Tom Rini
2014-08-09 22:43           ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-10  3:11             ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-10 16:53               ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-11 16:53                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-11 17:51                   ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-11 18:04                     ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2014-08-11 18:42                       ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-11 18:55                         ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-11 19:19                           ` Tom Rini
2014-08-11 22:15                             ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-12 17:29                           ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-12 17:46                             ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-12 20:29                             ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-08-10 17:14   ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-08-10 22:23 ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,1/3] " Tom Rini

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