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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] config: introduce a generic $bootcmd
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:15:56 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53E9409C.6010203@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140811191921.GT19374@bill-the-cat>

On 08/11/2014 01:19 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:55:43PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 08/11/2014 12:42 PM, Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
>>> Hello Stephen.
>>>
>>> On 11-08-14 20:04, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>> On 08/11/2014 11:51 AM, Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
>>>>> Hello Stephan
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11-08-14 18:53, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>>> On 08/10/2014 10:53 AM, Jeroen Hofstee wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Stephan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10-08-14 05:11, Stephen Warren wrote:
>>>>>>>> The entire point of this series is to prevent distros from having to
>>>>>>>> install bootloader-specific boot configuration files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I fail to see why this is something to pursue. Since the distro knows
>>>>>>> the boot path, why should u-boot be polling all possible options?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patch series allows U-Boot to find the OS and boot it. U-Boot is
>>>>>> searching for some kind of boot configuration file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This part of the process is the same as the BIOS searching all known
>>>>>> possible boot devices for a partition marked bootable, and with a
>>>>>> valid MBR. Or, it's the same as UEFI searching all possible boot
>>>>>> devices for whatever config file or boot binary is mandated by UEFI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not in my mind, I am not against scanning the possible
>>>>> boot devices, on the contrary, I am trying to add booting
>>>>> the userland from usb instead of mmc for the rpi_b.
>>>>
>>>> The following will tell U-Boot to only search USB for extlinux.conf.
>>>>
>>>> setenv boot_targets usb
>>>>
>>>> (you can put this into /uEnv.txt on the SD card if you want to avoid
>>>> editing U-Boot source code to make this change; there's no persistent
>>>> environment storage on the Pi, at least at the moment)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am going to give up soon commenting on this. It is
>>> applied anyway. My point is that I am making an image
>>> without an extlinux.conf, I know that, I could tell it in a
>>> boot.scr but yet this scripts now insist on searching for
>>> extlinux.conf.
>>
>> That's because you are an individual crafting your own installation
>> manually. The whole point of this feature is to allow distros to be
>> completely generic, i.e. they work in the exact same way on all HW
>> (that supports this feature, which hopefully will be most ARM boards
>> soon...).
>
> I suspect the problem here is that you're mentally thinking "... Linux
> ..." and Jeroen's use case is mainly "... Not Linux ...".
>
> So this is a step in the right direction, which is why I applied it, but
> it may need a little tweaking to make it less noisy to support *BSD or
> VxWorks or ..., which are real users out there for U-Boot and we don't
> want to forget them.

FWIW, it'd be easy enough to add an extra for loop into 
$scan_dev_for_boot so that rather than hard-coding scanning for extlinux 
first, then scanning for boot.scr, it was configurable the set and/or 
order it tried them. The user could then edit this in the environment. 
Just like $bootcmd reads the set of devices from a variable.

One could even have a few more defines feed into 
config_distro_defaults.h that define which types to support, so you 
could completely remove e.g. extlinux.conf searching from some board 
configurations if you really wanted, although I think it'd be best to 
just leave all the options available everywhere, at least until the time 
when we add some third option that's not generally applicable.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-11 22:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-30 22:37 [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] config: introduce a generic $bootcmd Stephen Warren
2014-07-30 22:37 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/3] ARM: tegra: use new " Stephen Warren
2014-08-08 16:02   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-10 22:23   ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,2/3] " Tom Rini
2014-07-30 22:37 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/3] ARM: rpi_b: " Stephen Warren
2014-08-08  0:18   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-10 22:23   ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,3/3] " Tom Rini
2014-07-31  1:55 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] config: introduce a " Marek Vasut
2014-07-31 10:47 ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-31 15:30   ` Stephen Warren
2014-07-31 22:03 ` Simon Glass
2014-07-31 23:00   ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-04 10:13     ` Simon Glass
2014-08-04 11:58       ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-08-04 18:04       ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-05 12:27         ` Simon Glass
2014-08-05 16:11           ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-06 16:01 ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-06 16:56   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-08  0:17     ` Simon Glass
2014-08-08 16:00       ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-09 15:02         ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-09 21:55           ` Tom Rini
2014-08-09 22:43           ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-10  3:11             ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-10 16:53               ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-11 16:53                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-11 17:51                   ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-11 18:04                     ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-11 18:42                       ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-11 18:55                         ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-11 19:19                           ` Tom Rini
2014-08-11 22:15                             ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2014-08-12 17:29                           ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-12 17:46                             ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-12 20:29                             ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-08-10 17:14   ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-08-10 22:23 ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,1/3] " Tom Rini

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