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From: Jeroen Hofstee <jeroen@myspectrum.nl>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] config: introduce a generic $bootcmd
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:29:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EA4EDE.7030904@myspectrum.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53E911AF.4080908@wwwdotorg.org>

Hello Stephan,

On 11-08-14 20:55, Stephen Warren wrote:

<snip>

>>> No, Linux distros need to be able to install a single bootloader
>>> configuration file to tell the bootloader how to boot.
>>
>> Don't understand this, I though extlinux is yet another
>> chainloaded bootloader? I doubt there is "the bootloader".
>> I don't understand why it needs a single bootloader. It gets
>> in handy if the last bootloader is known, but I don't even see
>> why that is required.
>
> This is obviously where the disconnect is...
>
> extlinux is (IIRC) a bootloader yes. However, this patch isn't about 
> extlinux, but extlinux.conf.
>

haha, right that is a funny misunderstanding. Yes, extlinux is
indeed a bootloader and I was in the impression you actively
searched for it to chainload it. And to make extlinux a requirement
for distro support... And as I tried to explain I am not that fond of
such an approach in general, and that had nothing to do, as Tom
suggested, with booting FreeBSD, it is just the image I encountered
searching  for it in various places. It remains a badly named file
though (for U-boot), but well so be it, I guess.

> extlinux.conf is a text file format the defines a menu of bootable 
> OSs. It's a (de-facto I suppose) standard that's implemented by 
> extlinux (if indeed that is a piece of SW:-) and also U-Boot and 
> barebox and likely other bootloaders too.
>
> So, when U-Boot locates extlinux.conf on disk and processes it, it's 
> parsing a configuration file/menu, not chain-loading/executing another 
> bootloader.
>

I see, so shouldn't we document then who is in charge of its format
at least, before we start making a U-boot/distro specific version of it?

<snip example file>
>
> That would require all Linux distros to have specific support to 
> install boot.scr, which is a bootloader-specific format script file. 
> Systems that boot using e.g. Barebox or other bootloaders presumably 
> can't process boot.scr. However, if all bootloaders end up supporting 
> extlinux.conf, the distro won't care what bootloader is on the HW.

We will see if this works, I am bit skeptical, but it is at least a 
whole lot
better then polling all possible options, where I took the patch for. (Well
not all yet, but the start to do so).

Regards,
Jeroen

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-12 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-30 22:37 [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] config: introduce a generic $bootcmd Stephen Warren
2014-07-30 22:37 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/3] ARM: tegra: use new " Stephen Warren
2014-08-08 16:02   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-10 22:23   ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,2/3] " Tom Rini
2014-07-30 22:37 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/3] ARM: rpi_b: " Stephen Warren
2014-08-08  0:18   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-10 22:23   ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,3/3] " Tom Rini
2014-07-31  1:55 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/3] config: introduce a " Marek Vasut
2014-07-31 10:47 ` Ian Campbell
2014-07-31 15:30   ` Stephen Warren
2014-07-31 22:03 ` Simon Glass
2014-07-31 23:00   ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-04 10:13     ` Simon Glass
2014-08-04 11:58       ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-08-04 18:04       ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-05 12:27         ` Simon Glass
2014-08-05 16:11           ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-06 16:01 ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-06 16:56   ` Simon Glass
2014-08-08  0:17     ` Simon Glass
2014-08-08 16:00       ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-09 15:02         ` Hans de Goede
2014-08-09 21:55           ` Tom Rini
2014-08-09 22:43           ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-10  3:11             ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-10 16:53               ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-11 16:53                 ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-11 17:51                   ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-11 18:04                     ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-11 18:42                       ` Jeroen Hofstee
2014-08-11 18:55                         ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-11 19:19                           ` Tom Rini
2014-08-11 22:15                             ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-12 17:29                           ` Jeroen Hofstee [this message]
2014-08-12 17:46                             ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-12 20:29                             ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-08-10 17:14   ` Dennis Gilmore
2014-08-10 22:23 ` [U-Boot] [U-Boot,1/3] " Tom Rini

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