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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/20] arm: rpi: Enable USB and Ethernet driver model Raspberry Pi
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 22:20:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55B1BCFD.8070309@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150716141009.GC29918@amd>

On 07/16/2015 08:10 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Mon 2015-07-13 22:52:58, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 07/11/2015 08:04 AM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> On 10 July 2015 at 23:34, Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org> wrote:
>>>> On 07/07/2015 08:53 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>>> Raspberry Pi uses a DWC2 USB controller and a SMSC USB Ethernet adaptor.
>>>>> Neither of these currently support driver model.
>>>>>
>>>>> This series does the following:
>>>>> - Move Raspberry Pi to use device tree control (u-boot-dtb.bin instead of
>>>>>      u-boot.bin)
>>>>
>>>> I'd strongly prefer not to do this. For one thing, it means we'd need
>>>> different U-Boot builds for each of the different RPi models, and we
>>>> currently don't need that (or perhaps we require users to create their
>>>> own u-boot-dtb.bin by choosing the right DTB to append). If it
>>>
>>> Why does device tree change how things work now? The get_board_rev()
>>> function currently deals with this. It doesn't look like rpi_board_rev
>>> is used anywhere else.
>>
>> Without a DT, the code is free to make all the board-rev-specific
>> decisions at run-time without external influence.
>>
>> With a DT, we either have to:
>>
>> a) Pick the DT for one particular board and use that everywhere, even if
>> it's incorrect for the actual board in use.
> 
> Is that an option? I mean... if you can tolerate incorrect values for
> something, perhaps that something should not be in the dtb in the
> first place?

Indeed I would certainly rather not have U-Boot use a DT that contains
invalid information.

>> b) Build a different U-Boot + DTB image for each board-rev, and put the
>> correct one on the SD card.
> 
> d) Build U-Boot + set of DTB images, then pick up the right one at the
> runtime?

Perhaps that'd work.

>> Neither of those options seem like a good idea to me.
> 
> Stuff that can be autodetected does not belong to the device tree...

I tend to agree, but then you need platform-specific code to do the
auto-detection, and there's pushback on that since a large benefit of DT
is to remove platform-specific code from SW and just represent the
information in DT. Put another way, DT seems to end up being "nothing"
(DT not used) or "everything" (even representing some auto-probed data).
Not great, but.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-24  4:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-08  2:53 [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/20] arm: rpi: Enable USB and Ethernet driver model Raspberry Pi Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 01/20] dm: net: Support usbethaddr environment variable Simon Glass
2015-07-08  4:04   ` Joe Hershberger
2015-07-08 20:31     ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08 20:43       ` Joe Hershberger
2015-07-08 21:07         ` Simon Glass
2015-07-20 13:56           ` Simon Glass
2015-07-20 18:10             ` Joe Hershberger
2015-07-21 21:25               ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 02/20] dm: usb: Allow USB Ethernet whenever CONFIG_DM_ETH is not defined Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 03/20] dm: usb: Add an errno.h header to usb_ether.c Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:31   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 04/20] dm: usb: Prepare dwc2 driver for driver-model conversion Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:31   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 05/20] dm: usb: Add driver-model support to dwc2 Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 06/20] net: smsc95xx: Sort the include files Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 07/20] net: smsc95xx: Rename AX_RX_URB_SIZE to RX_URB_SIZE Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 08/20] net: smsc95xx: Correct the error numbers Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 09/20] net: smsc95xx: Prepare for conversion to driver model Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 10/20] net: smsc95xx: Add driver-model support Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 11/20] dm: serial: Update binding for PL01x serial UART Simon Glass
2015-07-08 22:00   ` Vikas MANOCHA
2015-07-15  9:00   ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-15  9:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-07-15 10:08       ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-15 10:17         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-07-16  7:41           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-19  7:19             ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 12/20] dm: Support address translation for simple-bus Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 13/20] arm: rpi: Define CONFIG_TFTP_TSIZE to show tftp size info Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 14/20] arm: rpi: Bring in kernel device tree files Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 15/20] arm: rpi: Device tree modifications for U-Boot Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 16/20] arm: rpi: Enable device tree control for Rasberry Pi Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 17/20] arm: rpi: Drop the UART console platform data Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 18/20] arm: rpi: Drop the GPIO " Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 19/20] arm: rpi: Move to driver model for USB Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 20/20] arm: rpi: Use driver model for Ethernet Simon Glass
2015-07-11  5:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/20] arm: rpi: Enable USB and Ethernet driver model Raspberry Pi Stephen Warren
2015-07-11 14:04   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-14  4:52     ` Stephen Warren
2015-07-14 15:44       ` Simon Glass
2015-07-24  4:17         ` Stephen Warren
2015-07-24 13:44           ` Tom Rini
2015-07-28  3:10             ` Stephen Warren
2015-07-28 13:55               ` Tom Rini
2015-07-28 15:44                 ` Simon Glass
2015-08-01  3:10                   ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-01  3:01                 ` Stephen Warren
2015-07-16 14:10       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-20 14:25         ` Simon Glass
2015-07-24  4:20         ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2015-08-03 23:45 ` Marek Vasut
2015-08-04  0:07   ` Simon Glass
2015-08-04  0:37     ` Marek Vasut

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