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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] sunxi: mctl_mem_matches: Add missing memory barrier
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 14:09:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <571A1472.9030004@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <571A0F06.60804@arm.com>

Hi,

On 22-04-16 13:46, Andre Przywara wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> thanks for the information and the heads up!
>
> On 22/04/16 11:48, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 22-04-16 11:32, Ian Campbell wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 09:34 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
>>>>> I wonder if what you are observing could be possibly explained by just
>>>>> a usual data corruption problem? Which may be happening when the DRAM
>>>>> clock speed is set higher than this particular device is able to handle
>>>>> in a reliable way. Inserting just one or more NOP instructions instead
>>>>> of the barrier could possibly change some timings too.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this patch helps, then it's fine. But I wonder if it is not merely
>>>>> making the problem latent instead of fixing the root cause?
>>>> I do believe that this patch addresses a real problem and is not hiding
>>>> some dram timing issues, I might be wrong about the write-buffer being
>>>> the cause, it could simply be that the compiler is doing something bad
>>>> (despite the accesses being marked as volatile)  and that the DSB stops
>>>> the compiler from optimizing things too much.
>>>
>>> I have a _very_ vague memory of seeing something not disimilar to this
>>> (apparent write buffer interactions with MMU disabled) in the early
>>> days of Xen development, but that was probably on models and so may not
>>> have been representative of the intended behaviour of eventual silicon.
>>>
>>> It might be interesting to have a look at the generated assembly and
>>> see if it differs in more or less than the addition of the single
>>> instruction and perhaps experiment with just a compiler barrier.
>>>
>>> Andre, do you have any insights on this?
>
> Agree on the compiler barrier, frankly I don't see how this should break
> with caches on or off unless the actual instruction order is wrong or
> the compiler optimized something away.
> Regardless of the write buffer the core should make sure the subsequent
> reads return the value written before - especially if we are talking UP
> here.

"the core should make sure the subsequent reads return the value written before"
that is exactly the problem, we are writing 2 different values
to so DRAM_BASE and DRAM_BASE + 512MiB, then read them both back
and compare them, expecting them to be the same (both reads returning
the last written value) if the ramsize is 512MiB (this is used in several places
in the dram controller code to auto-config number of rows, columns, etc.).

But the core seems to just return the last written value,
rather then actually going out to the RAM and reading it from
there, which results in the function always returning false
(i.o.w. it claims no DRAM phys address wraparound is happening
  at 512MiB).

The DSB seems to fix this, but it might very well be the
compiler being to clever (although all accesses are done
through volatile pointers, so it really should not).

I'll try the barrier() fix when I've some time.

Regards,

Hans




>
>>
>> Andre here is the original mail/patch for reference:
>>
>>      sunxi: mctl_mem_matches: Add missing memory barrier
>>
>>      We are running with the caches disabled when mctl_mem_matches gets
>> called,
>>      but the cpu's write buffer is still there and can still get in the way,
>>      add a memory barrier to fix this.
>>
>>      This avoids mctl_mem_matches always returning false in some cases,
>> which
>>      was resulting in:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> @@ -31,6 +32,7 @@ bool mctl_mem_matches(u32 offset)
>>       /* Try to write different values to RAM at two addresses */
>>       writel(0, CONFIG_SYS_SDRAM_BASE);
>>       writel(0xaa55aa55, (ulong)CONFIG_SYS_SDRAM_BASE + offset);
>> +    DSB;
>>       /* Check if the same value is actually observed when reading back */
>>       return readl(CONFIG_SYS_SDRAM_BASE) ==
>>              readl((ulong)CONFIG_SYS_SDRAM_BASE + offset);
>>
>>
>> What this code is trying to do is determine RAM (chip) size by seeing when
>> writing to RAM wrapsaround.
>>
>> This works with the DSB but not without (without it always returns false)
>> this is on a Cortex A7 with the mmu (and data caches) disabled.
>>
>> Ian, I can try using just a compiler barrier, but I've never done so
>> before, how do I insert one ?
>
> barrier();
>
> I am busy at the moment, but will take a look later.
>
> Cheers,
> Andre.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-22 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14 16:58 [U-Boot] [PATCH] sunxi: mctl_mem_matches: Add missing memory barrier Hans de Goede
2016-04-15  0:46 ` Siarhei Siamashka
2016-04-15  7:34   ` Hans de Goede
2016-04-22  9:32     ` Ian Campbell
2016-04-22 10:48       ` Hans de Goede
2016-04-22 11:46         ` Andre Przywara
2016-04-22 12:09           ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2016-04-22 13:12             ` Andre Przywara
2016-04-22 13:20               ` Ian Campbell

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