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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 16:57:59 +0200 Message-ID: <68959.1629385079@gemini.denx.de> X-BeenThere: u-boot@lists.denx.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: U-Boot discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: u-boot-bounces@lists.denx.de Sender: "U-Boot" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.2 at phobos.denx.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Dear Simon, In message you wrote: > > - programming errors > - security errors where user input is insufficiently checked > > IMO the former should not be present if you have sufficient tests and > trying to catch them in the field at runtime is not very kind to your > users. Wow. I think I'll add this to my signature database: | "Trying to catch [programming errors] in the field at runtime is not | very kind to your users." | | - Simon Glass in Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@denx.de It is wrong always, everywhere and for everyone to believe anything upon insufficient evidence. - W. K. Clifford, British philosopher, circa 1876