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From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>,  Michael Walle <mwalle@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>,
	 u-boot@lists.denx.de,  Tudor Ambarus <tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,
	 Takahiro Kuwano <Takahiro.Kuwano@infineon.com>,
	 Hiroyuki Saito <Hiroyuki.Saito2@infineon.com>,
	 Venkatesh Yadav Abbarapu <venkatesh.abbarapu@amd.com>,
	 Prasanth Babu Mantena <p-mantena@ti.com>,
	Vaishnav Achath <vaishnav.a@ti.com>,
	 Prasad Kummari <prasad.kummari@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFH] SPI and SPI-NOR patch help
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2026 11:26:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikbtt4ep.fsf@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALeDE9OiivzK9-Hy6RN0yD5ctiBRVC_GtHXvmnXRzx5-e-NV5w@mail.gmail.com> (Peter Robinson's message of "Wed, 18 Feb 2026 14:20:56 +0000")

On 18/02/2026 at 14:20:56 GMT, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Feb 2026 at 13:40, Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Tom,
>>
>> On 16/02/2026 at 09:31:10 -06, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 09:21:55AM +0100, Michael Walle wrote:
>> >> On Sat Feb 14, 2026 at 7:58 PM CET, Conor Dooley wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 10:46:07AM -0600, Tom Rini wrote:
>> >> >> Hey all,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To be blunt, U-Boot needs help with reviewing and maintaining the SPI
>> >> >> and SPI-NOR subsystems. We haven't had someone with time to actively
>> >> >> work in this area for some time. I'm going through the outstanding
>> >> >> changes now, but it also seems a common problem is that with respect to
>> >> >> device IDs, most of the new ones also aren't in the upstream Linux
>> >> >> Kernel. Is there some better and generic solution we're missing so that
>> >> >> we don't have large and often growing device ID tables? I'd rather not
>> >> >> make that problem worse, so I've rejected two of those types of updates
>> >> >> today and I'm just setting aside a large number of others.
>> >> >
>> >> > Dunno if your timing was cursed on sending this, but Tudor submitted his
>> >> > resignation from spi-nor maintainership in the kernel about 10 mins
>> >> > after.
>> >> > I think Michael Walle might be responsible for what you're talking about
>> >> > here, with his 773bbe1044973 ("mtd: spi-nor: add generic flash driver"),
>> >> > but idk jack about spi-nor stuff.
>> >>
>> >> Yeah. Nowadays SPI-NOR flashes come with self describing tables,
>> >> which are already supported by u-boot, I think. The only change that
>> >> seems to be missing is the fallback to it if an id isn't found in
>> >> the flashdb. Only thing is, the SFDP doesn't describe all features,
>> >> most prominent example being locking. So if you need that, you'll
>> >> still need to have an entry per flash.
>> >>
>> >> In fact, in linux I'm planning to change to make it probe SFDP first
>> >> and then amend it with the flashdb information (if there is an
>> >> entry).
>> >
>> > Thanks for explaining. So in that U-Boot does have SFDP support, the
>> > first thing is platforms should likely be enabling that instead of just
>> > adding IDs, at least for basic support.
>>
>> Yes. There will be the need for IDs anyways, for those "extra" "non
>> sfdp" features, but that should reduce the load. For example, shall we
>> consider block protection in U-Boot or not? This is a useful feature,
>> but at the same time, do we really need it in a Bootloader? This is open
>> to discussion.
>
> By block protection do you mean for features like rpmc counters for
> rollback protection? If so I suspect there's some usefulness to
> supporting it given U-Boot ends up being the entry point for FW stack
> updates using mechanisms like UEFI capsule support.

Sounds like a legitimate use case. I was actually referring to Software
Block Protection bits (BP, TB, INV).

Thanks,
Miquèl

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-19 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-13 16:46 [RFH] SPI and SPI-NOR patch help Tom Rini
2026-02-14 18:58 ` Conor Dooley
2026-02-16  8:21   ` Michael Walle
2026-02-16 15:31     ` Tom Rini
2026-02-18  9:23       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 14:20         ` Peter Robinson
2026-02-19 10:26           ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2026-02-19 12:13         ` Tudor Ambarus
2026-02-19 20:57           ` Tom Rini
2026-02-20  7:35             ` Tudor Ambarus
2026-02-20 15:07               ` Tom Rini
2026-02-24  8:39           ` Takahiro.Kuwano
2026-02-24 10:23             ` Tudor Ambarus
2026-02-24 15:40               ` Tom Rini

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