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From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
Cc: Heinrich Schuchardt <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>,
	Johannes Holland <johannes.holland@infineon.com>,
	Masahisa Kojima <masahisa.kojima@linaro.org>,
	Dhananjay Phadke <dphadke@linux.microsoft.com>,
	U-Boot Mailing List <u-boot@lists.denx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2 v2] tpm2: Introduce TIS tpm core
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 08:51:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YO0p6dOA0LriRwAK@enceladus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPnjgZ1o_dufsGbF0Mdf_KCMgNzOKtkgvmdOTAXL9D07hAavxA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Simon,
> > >

[...]

> > > Yes, but I hope you see my point, that you have added a new interface.
> > > It is definitely better than adding a new driver and duplicating all
> > > the code, but it is still one more copy and in fact, the code is
> > > duplicated.
> > >
> >
> > I get the point but I don't exactly agree here.  It's not duplicated code.
> > We need to plug in the mmio driver.  The original code was just doing what
> > every TPM does.  It carried the TIS relevant code in the new driver.
> > The new approach defines an API for everyone to use and the new driver uses it.
> > So I don't see the duplication here.  You need the TIS code one way or the
> > other.  Now it's on a common interface for everyone to use.
> 
> Well how about converting a TPM blindly and then we'll find someone to test it?

Let's do the cr50

> 
> >
> > > Can you get access to TPM hardware? I see that you have offered to be
> > > the maintainer for this subsystem, so I think that would be useful.
> > > Can sandbox use your new API?
> >
> > It depends, is the sandbox TIS compatible? If it is sure we could use it.
> 
> At present sandbox implements the tpm_ops API. So if we did that we
> would need to tear it apart to insert this new API as well.

Ok then that might make too much sense for the sandbox.

> 
> > I offered to maintain the drivers because I wrote the API and I have an
> > idea of how TPMs should work.  If that means I'll have to go and get every
> > hardware we support, I'll just volunteer into maintaining the TIS layer.
> > Moreover I dont see why I should start porting drivers to use that API.
> > People decided to duplicate that code in every driver (in fact multiple times).
> 
> See https://xkcd.com/927/ :-)
> 

Yea I don't disagree with that.  That's one of the points of adding myself
as a maintainer for the entire tpm/drivers/*.  I can just reply 'no thanks'
at least for new drivers that don't use it.  But frankly I don't see why,
adding a new drivers, while using the TIS API boils down to a few lines of
code defining the bus accesses 

> >
> > I am happy to work with you on the cr50 i2c driver if that would help.
> 
> Sure that might be easier as I can definitely test it.

Ok, let me have a look at that, I still think the patch should go in
regardless though.  We can always send a follow up for cr50 once we are
done testing

Cheers
/Ilias
> 
> Regards,
> Siomn

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-13  5:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-07 16:25 [PATCH 1/2 v2] tpm2: Introduce TIS tpm core Ilias Apalodimas
2021-07-07 16:25 ` [PATCH 2/2] tpm2: Add a TPMv2 MMIO TIS driver Ilias Apalodimas
2021-07-11  0:00   ` Simon Glass
2021-07-12 18:22     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-07-12 19:13       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-07-12 19:43         ` Simon Glass
2021-07-12 22:46           ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2021-07-13 16:52             ` Simon Glass
2021-07-12 19:38       ` Simon Glass
2021-07-13 20:11         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-07-14  2:49           ` Simon Glass
2021-07-14  5:23             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-07-14 19:50               ` Simon Glass
2021-07-11  0:00 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] tpm2: Introduce TIS tpm core Simon Glass
2021-07-12  6:24   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-07-12 11:42     ` Simon Glass
2021-07-12 14:03       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-07-12 19:43         ` Simon Glass
2021-07-13  5:51           ` Ilias Apalodimas [this message]
2021-07-13 20:17             ` Simon Glass

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