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From: Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>
To: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
Cc: "Simon Glass" <sjg@chromium.org>,
	"Quentin Schulz" <quentin.schulz@cherry.de>,
	"Kory Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
	"Mattijs Korpershoek" <mkorpershoek@kernel.org>,
	"Martin Schwan" <m.schwan@phytec.de>,
	"Anshul Dalal" <anshuld@ti.com>,
	"Ilias Apalodimas" <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	"Sughosh Ganu" <sughosh.ganu@arm.com>,
	"Aristo Chen" <jj251510319013@gmail.com>,
	"牛 志宏" <Zone.Niuzh@hotmail.com>,
	"Marek Vasut" <marek.vasut+renesas@mailbox.org>,
	"Heinrich Schuchardt" <xypron.glpk@gmx.de>,
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	"David Lechner" <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
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	"Mikhail Kshevetskiy" <mikhail.kshevetskiy@iopsys.eu>,
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	"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/20] boot: add OpenWrt boot method and on-demand FIT loading
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2026 11:57:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZ2SI0rKuMEgSq1F@makrotopia.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260223193219.GF3233182@bill-the-cat>

On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 01:32:19PM -0600, Tom Rini wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2026 at 11:46:17AM -0600, Tom Rini wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 09:21:14PM +0000, Daniel Golle wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > This RFC series adds a new boot method for OpenWrt's "uImage.FIT with
> > > embedded rootfs" firmware model, along with the underlying infrastructure
> > > to load FIT images on-demand directly from storage devices without copying
> > > them entirely to RAM first.
> > [snip]
> > > AI tool disclosure
> > > ==================
> > > 
> > > Major parts of this series were developed with assistance from GitHub
> > > Copilot (Claude Opus 4.6, Anthropic). The AI was used as a coding
> > > partner for scaffolding boilerplate, drafting documentation and commit
> > > messages, running checkpatch sweeps, and iterating on review feedback.
> > > All architectural decisions, U-Boot subsystem integration, hardware
> > > testing, and final review were done by the human author. Every line of
> > > code was reviewed and tested on real hardware before inclusion.
> > 
> > First, I appreciate your honesty and explanation in the disclosure here.
> > 
> > This topic comes up, and will keep coming up, and as a project we have
> > not yet decided on a position. I know that the Linux Kernel has come up
> > with:
> > https://docs.kernel.org/next/process/generated-content.html
> > so far. But I think that:
> > https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/contributing-and-ai.html
> > brings up points that are quite relevant too. Absolutely no one has been
> > happy with when gitlab or patchwork were unusable / unreachable (and for
> > some people are still unusable) but it's because of all the AI scrapers
> > that things were unusable or now have anubis in front of them (blocking
> > other humans now).
> > 
> > With that said, I want to stress the "human is responsible" portion of
> > what both links say, and that given where exactly these changes are
> > aimed for, extra scrutiny is required. Things like:
> > https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/116080909947754833
> > show just how bad they are about introducing security bugs these days.
> 
> Following up on this part I suppose, I see in CI you're working on v2
> but please make sure to follow up with the other outstanding questions
> I've asked before posting that. Thanks!

I've carefully reiterated over all your emails regarding the series and
my replies to them. Apart from your request to share an image making use
of the proposal to include dm-verity parameters in uImage.FIT (and use
the presence to decide whether has varifications of that subimage may be
skipped) I haven't found anything which hasn't been answered. But maybe
I missed something, of course.

As it is difficult to share large binaries without paying for hosting or
exposing my home router public IP address to a public mailing list I
have sent a decompiled FIT header. If you would like me to share an
actual image (or even the whole SD card image for the BPi-R3, or images
for the OpenWrt One), please contact me off-list and I shall find a way
to share the binaries with you.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-24 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-16 21:21 [RFC PATCH 00/20] boot: add OpenWrt boot method and on-demand FIT loading Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 01/20] boot: add image_loader on-demand loading abstraction Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 02/20] boot: image-loader: add block device backend Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 03/20] mtd: add mtd_read_skip_bad() helper Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 04/20] boot: image-loader: add MTD backend Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 21:21 ` [RFC PATCH 05/20] cmd: ubi: export ubi_find_volume() Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:22 ` [RFC PATCH 06/20] mtd: set flash_node on DT-created partitions Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 21:22 ` [RFC PATCH 07/20] cmd: ubi: add ubi_part_from_mtd() Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 21:22 ` [RFC PATCH 08/20] boot: image-loader: add UBI volume backend Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-19 16:51     ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-23 17:51       ` Simon Glass
2026-02-23 19:24         ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-23 19:30           ` Mikhail Kshevetskiy
2026-02-23 19:32             ` Mikhail Kshevetskiy
2026-02-24  0:12               ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-24  0:40                 ` Mikhail Kshevetskiy
2026-02-24  1:06                   ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-23 20:06             ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 21:22 ` [RFC PATCH 09/20] boot: fit: support on-demand loading in fit_image_load() Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-19 16:47     ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-23 17:51       ` Simon Glass
2026-02-24 12:41         ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 21:22 ` [RFC PATCH 10/20] cmd: bootm: accept storage device as image source Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:22 ` [RFC PATCH 11/20] test: boot: add image_loader unit tests Daniel Golle
2026-02-17 19:05   ` Tom Rini
2026-02-19 13:10   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-19 14:04     ` Tom Rini
2026-02-19 14:34       ` Simon Glass
2026-02-19 15:41         ` Tom Rini
2026-02-16 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 12/20] doc: bootm: document direct storage boot Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 13/20] boot: bootmeth: add OpenWrt boot method skeleton Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-19 14:00     ` Tom Rini
2026-02-19 14:31       ` Simon Glass
2026-02-19 15:31         ` Tom Rini
2026-02-19 16:52     ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-16 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 14/20] boot: bootmeth: openwrt: implement read_bootflow for block devices Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 15/20] boot: bootmeth: openwrt: implement boot via bootm storage path Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:23 ` [RFC PATCH 16/20] boot: bootdev: add MTD boot device Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:24 ` [RFC PATCH 17/20] boot: bootdev: add UBI " Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-19 16:56     ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-23 17:51       ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:24 ` [RFC PATCH 18/20] boot: bootmeth: openwrt: support MTD and UBI bootdevs Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:09   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:24 ` [RFC PATCH 19/20] boot: bootmeth: openwrt: add openwrt_boot_script hook for bootconf Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:11   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 21:24 ` [RFC PATCH 20/20] boot: bootmeth: openwrt: add slot configuration from environment Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 13:11   ` Simon Glass
2026-02-16 22:16 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] boot: add OpenWrt boot method and on-demand FIT loading Marek Vasut
2026-02-17  1:18   ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-17  2:04     ` Marek Vasut
2026-02-17 13:02       ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-17 19:15         ` Tom Rini
2026-02-17 13:32 ` Simon Glass
2026-02-17 15:08 ` Tom Rini
2026-02-17 17:46 ` Tom Rini
2026-02-23 19:32   ` Tom Rini
2026-02-24 11:57     ` Daniel Golle [this message]
2026-02-24 17:24       ` Tom Rini
2026-02-25 14:34         ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-25 22:16           ` Tom Rini
2026-02-25 23:49             ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-26 18:45               ` Tom Rini
2026-02-26 23:44                 ` Simon Glass
2026-02-17 18:13 ` Tom Rini
2026-02-17 19:28   ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-17 19:35     ` Tom Rini
2026-02-17 21:07       ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-17 21:18         ` Tom Rini
     [not found]           ` <aZTqyRfqYe1iJ9EY@makrotopia.org>
2026-02-18 15:58             ` Tom Rini
2026-02-18 17:25               ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-18 20:33                 ` Tom Rini
2026-02-24  0:37                   ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-24 14:24                     ` Tom Rini
2026-02-24 14:36                       ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-18 23:08                 ` Daniel Golle
2026-02-19 15:29                   ` Tom Rini
2026-02-17 19:20 ` Tom Rini

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