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From: Michael Walle <mwalle@kernel.org>
To: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
Cc: Caleb Connolly <caleb.connolly@linaro.org>,
	clamor95@gmail.com, sjg@chromium.org, sumit.garg@linaro.org,
	trini@konsulko.com, u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] boot: add support for button commands
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 16:11:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b12a7bc0cbadba250b1de613236f9f85@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf263fe8e2cb0bb841efed72372ba954@manjaro.org>

>>> Using CONFIG_EXTRA_ENV_SETTINGS should be good enough to provide
>>> the fallback defaults.  However, the users can still mess the things 
>>> up,
>>> but again, they can do that already in many places.
>> 
>> I disagree. In my case that is a last resort recovery. And it should
>> work in any case. Even if the user has messed up anything (except
>> from erasing the bootloader in the SPI flash ;)).
> 
> Maybe the solution could be another compile-time option to "lock down"
> the built-in defaults provided through CONFIG_EXTRA_ENV_SETTINGS?  If
> that new option is selected, changes to the environment would make no
> changes to the built-in defaults, i.e. those parts of the environment
> would actually be ignored.

Not sure locking down the whole environment is a good idea.

>>>> In summary, the registered (compiled-in) command should always take
>>>> precedence. If one wants to supply a default command which can be
>>>> changed later, that can go via the (compiled-in) default 
>>>> environment.
>>> 
>>> Sorry, this is a bit confusing to me.  Didn't you write above that
>>> the users should be able to change the associated commands through
>>> the environment variables?
>> 
>> I had two kinds of button commands in mind: immutable ones and mutable
>> ones. The first can be achieved with compiled-in commands, the second
>> with a default environment and environment variables.
>> 
>> Also, whether a command is a mutable one or not is the decision of
>> the developer (or the one who's compiling/configuring u-boot),
>> not the user.
> 
> I believe that the additional compile-time option, which I proposed
> above, could be extended to specify which of the built-in default
> button-command associations are immutable, and which are allowed to
> be modified through the environment variables.

IIRC there is already a mechanism for that. Environment hooks
or something like that. But I'm not sure that has other implications
and qualify as simple and lightweight for this use-case.

Anyway, we digress. I just wanted to make you aware of another
use-case, which btw. is already done today in the lsxl board for
example.

-michael

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-18 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-09 11:51 [PATCH v2] boot: add support for button commands Caleb Connolly
2024-01-10 18:08 ` Dragan Simic
2024-01-10 20:09   ` Caleb Connolly
2024-01-11  9:38     ` Michael Walle
2024-01-18  6:57       ` Dragan Simic
2024-01-18  7:59         ` Michael Walle
2024-01-18 14:33           ` Dragan Simic
2024-01-18 15:11             ` Michael Walle [this message]
2024-01-18 15:14               ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-13 22:32 ` Tom Rini

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