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From: Detlev Zundel <dzu@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Delete all env vars except read onlys
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:13:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m23arxun23.fsf@ohwell.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ve4ti1rr.fsf@denx.de> ("Markus Klotzbücher"'s message of "Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:33:44 +0100")

Hi,

> Stefan Roese <sr@denx.de> writes:
>
>> On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Markus Klotzb?cher wrote:
>>> > => scrubenv
>>> > Do you really want to do this ('yes' or 'no')? yes
>>>
>>> Such a confirmation is not very Unix-like and will prevent this command
>>> to be used in scripts. I like the idea of a scrubenv/resetenv command
>>> but vote for leaving out the confirmation.
>>>
>>> U-Boot provides many, much more serious ways to blow you foot off which
>>> don't ask such questions.
>>
>> Sure. But not by "just" typing one command. Or at least I don't know those 
>> kind of destructive commands.
>
> It need not be a single one, it could be a script. For instance, I once
> ran an "update" script without checking that _my_ version of U-Boot
> would be used. It used some ancient version which turned the board
> (temporarily) into a doorstop.
>
> Stupid? Yes! But would such checks (e.g. to "mw") have avoided the
> problem?  I doubt it. Probably I'd just have typed "yes" without
> checking.
>
> BTW, after accidentally erasing the environment variables U-Boot will
> (likely) still start up, so it's really not that critical, is it?

Why not do both?  Unix untilities do it sometimes this way: Use an
interactive check for "scrubenv" but allow "scrubenv -force" not to
ask.  As many of the U-Boot users know Unix, this would follow from the
"principle of least surprise"...

Cheers
  Detlev

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If mathematics is anything, it is the art of chosing the most elegant
generalization for some abstract pattern.  Thus esthetics is central.
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-13 11:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-12  8:44 [U-Boot-Users] Delete all env vars except read onlys Matthias Fuchs
2008-02-12 14:49 ` Stefan Roese
2008-02-12 22:55   ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-13  8:21   ` Matthias Fuchs
2008-02-13  8:56     ` Stefan Roese
2008-02-13  9:18       ` Matthias Fuchs
2008-02-13 10:02     ` Markus Klotzbücher
2008-02-13 10:13       ` Stefan Roese
2008-02-13 10:33         ` Markus Klotzbücher
2008-02-13 11:13           ` Detlev Zundel [this message]
2008-02-13 12:55             ` Markus Klotzbücher
2008-02-13 12:58               ` Stefan Roese
2008-02-13 22:43             ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-13 22:49               ` Scott Wood
2008-02-13 23:03                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-13 23:04                   ` Scott Wood
2008-02-13 23:11                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-15 15:37                       ` Detlev Zundel
2008-02-13 22:40         ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-13 22:50           ` Scott Wood
2008-02-13 23:05             ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-14  5:20             ` Stefan Roese
2008-02-14  7:44               ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-15 15:52                 ` Detlev Zundel
2008-02-15 16:11                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-15 16:40                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-15 17:12                     ` Markus Klotzbücher
2008-02-15 20:27                     ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2008-02-20 21:17                       ` Matthias Fuchs
2008-02-20 21:30                         ` Ulf Samuelsson
2008-02-21  0:04                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-22 12:00                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-18  9:41                     ` Martin Krause
2008-03-25 21:10                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-13 22:38     ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-02-12 22:38 ` Wolfgang Denk

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