[U-Boot] Mail list threading problem or mailer problem?

[U-Boot] Mail list threading problem or mailer problem?

[Shawn Guo]

Let's look at this example.  Here is what I see on
http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2010-October/thread.html.

[U-Boot] U-boot versions - reply to RM + SW   David Collier
                [U-Boot] [PATCH] mx51evk: support new relocation
scheme   Shawn Guo
                [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] mx51evk: support new relocation
scheme   Shawn Guo
                [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] mx51evk: correct internal RAM
base address   Shawn Guo
                [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] mx51evk: correct internal RAM
base address   Jason Liu
                [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 2/2] mx51evk: correct internal RAM
base address   Shawn Guo
                [U-Boot] [PATCH] mx51evk: consolidate env for mmcboot
and netboot   Shawn Guo

But I really expect something like below (added In-Reply-To ID).

[U-Boot] U-boot versions - reply to RM + SW   David Collier
[U-Boot] [PATCH] mx51evk: support new relocation scheme   Shawn Guo
                [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/2] mx51evk: support new relocation
scheme   Shawn Guo
<1288019681-18496-1-git-send-email-shawn.gsc@gmail.com>
                [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] mx51evk: correct internal RAM
base address   Shawn Guo
<1288019681-18496-1-git-send-email-shawn.gsc@gmail.com>
                                [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/2] mx51evk: correct
internal RAM base address   Jason Liu
                [U-Boot] [PATCH v2 2/2] mx51evk: correct internal RAM
base address   Shawn Guo
<1288019681-18496-1-git-send-email-shawn.gsc@gmail.com>
[U-Boot] [PATCH] mx51evk: consolidate env for mmcboot and netboot   Shawn Guo

Is this some problem with u-boot mail list threading itself or the gmail mailer?

-- 
Regards,
Shawn

[U-Boot] Mail list threading problem or mailer problem?

[Mike Frysinger]

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Shawn Guo wrote:
> But I really expect something like below (added In-Reply-To ID).

gmail does not respect the reply-to headers when threading stuff in
its web client

if you have any questions beyond that, look at the raw e-mail and make
sure the message id and in reply to headers match.  if they dont, it's
a bug in whoever sent the e-mail.
-mike

[U-Boot] Mail list threading problem or mailer problem?

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Shawn Guo,

In message <AANLkTi=zf_CaDTwT_Y0yqKZy1ps41NWOR=Yn2p69mgF5@mail.gmail.com> you wrote:
> 
> Is this some problem with u-boot mail list threading itself or the gmail mailer?

As Mike already pointed out, this appears to be a problem with the
gmail'w web interface.

At http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.boot-loaders.u-boot/87453 you
can see how other tools display this thread.


Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot] Mail list threading problem or mailer problem?

[Shawn Guo]

Hi Mike,

I did not mean the threading view in gmail web client, but
http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2010-October/thread.html

The message-id and in-reply-to matches, and the same way works good
with linux-arm-kernel list.  I also see others' messages having same
problem in u-boot list.


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Shawn Guo wrote:
>> But I really expect something like below (added In-Reply-To ID).
>
> gmail does not respect the reply-to headers when threading stuff in
> its web client
>
> if you have any questions beyond that, look at the raw e-mail and make
> sure the message id and in reply to headers match. ?if they dont, it's
> a bug in whoever sent the e-mail.
> -mike
>


-- 
Regards,
Shawn

[U-Boot] Mail list threading problem or mailer problem?

[Mike Frysinger]

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Shawn Guo wrote:
> Hi Mike,

please do not top post

> I did not mean the threading view in gmail web client, but
> http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2010-October/thread.html

so you're just talking about how pipermail is archiving things ?
gmane seems to do it fine.
-mike

[U-Boot] Mail list threading problem or mailer problem?

[Shawn Guo]

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Shawn Guo wrote:
>> I did not mean the threading view in gmail web client, but
>> http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2010-October/thread.html
>
> so you're just talking about how pipermail is archiving things ?
> gmane seems to do it fine.
> -mike
>
Yes, you are right.

-- 
Regards,
Shawn

[U-Boot] Mail list threading problem or mailer problem?

[Detlev Zundel]

Hi Shawn,

> Let's look at this example.  Here is what I see on
> http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2010-October/thread.html.

[...]

> Is this some problem with u-boot mail list threading itself or the gmail mailer?

This is a _feature_ of the pipermail component of GNU mailman.  It
intentionally limits the indentation depth to 4 in order to keep the
html pages readable.  Researching somewhat I found that this is
intentionally not a user-chageable option and at least one guy reported
problems on changing it[1], so I prefer to keep the setting as is ;)

Cheers
  Detlev

[1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2009-March/065473.html

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