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From: Detlev Zundel <dzu@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] add 'license' command to u-boot commandline
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:11:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2iqvgqxcr.fsf@ohwell.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080707192222.3759B24304@gemini.denx.de> (Wolfgang Denk's message of "Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:22:22 +0200")

Hi,

>> On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 04:53:14PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>> > I support this, but then we should *always* print this  message,  not
>> > only  "when it starts in an interactive mode" (or some guys could try
>> > to get away by disabling interactive mode).
>> 
>> Such a restriction is (fortunately) not enforcable by the license, which
>
> It may not be enforcable by the license, but bu the Copyright holders
> of the code.
>
>> only covers interactive interfaces.  Otherwise, it would make u-boot useless
>> for environments where interactive mode would interfere with other uses of
>> the serial port (or when no suitable device exists).
>
> Of course it  must  not  interfere  with  such  situations.  We  have
> standard  ways  to silence console output, and I did not mean to mess
> with these. But if there is console output,  a  "GPL"  message  would
> probably be a Good Thing.

Just to confirm, this was also my original intention.  If we output an
"U-Boot ver. x.y.z" we can surely also output "U-Boot is Free Software
licensed under the GPL".

>> Personally, I'd rather stay far away from invoking any clauses of a
>> non-changeable license that dictate technical decisions such as which bytes
>> to include in the final image.
>
> The GPL does not dictate anything - you have always  the  freedom  to
> write  anything  from scratch or buy the source code for any proprie-
> tary boot loader that comes under another license.  But  U-Boot  *is*
> licensed under GPL, and this is what makes it strong. Over the years,
> and  spending  more  and  more  time on stupid email discussions with
> companies who think they can ignore a  "free"  license  (while  being
> empatic  with their own closed source stuff), I came to beliving that
> a clearly visible label "This box runs Free Software"  is  a  really,
> really good idea.

Full ack.

Cheers
  Detlev

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      reply	other threads:[~2008-07-08 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-06  7:52 [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] add 'license' command to u-boot commandline Harald Welte
2008-07-06 10:11 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-06 11:28   ` Harald Welte
2008-07-07 11:16     ` Detlev Zundel
2008-07-07 12:00       ` Stefan Roese
2008-07-09 14:30         ` [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] add 'license' command to u-boot?commandline Harald Welte
2008-07-09 14:42           ` Jerry Van Baren
2008-07-09 14:56             ` Harald Welte
2008-07-09 20:42             ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-10  2:45               ` Jerry Van Baren
2008-07-10 10:51                 ` Detlev Zundel
2008-07-10 11:08                   ` Stefan Roese
2008-07-10 17:16                     ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2008-07-10 11:13                   ` Harald Welte
2008-07-10 11:23                     ` Jerry Van Baren
2008-07-10 11:26                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-07 14:53       ` [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] add 'license' command to u-boot commandline Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-07 15:33         ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2008-07-07 18:30         ` Scott Wood
2008-07-07 19:22           ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-08 14:11             ` Detlev Zundel [this message]

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