From: Detlev Zundel <dzu@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] add 'license' command to u-boot commandline
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:11:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2iqvgqxcr.fsf@ohwell.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080707192222.3759B24304@gemini.denx.de> (Wolfgang Denk's message of "Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:22:22 +0200")
Hi,
>> On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 04:53:14PM +0200, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>> > I support this, but then we should *always* print this message, not
>> > only "when it starts in an interactive mode" (or some guys could try
>> > to get away by disabling interactive mode).
>>
>> Such a restriction is (fortunately) not enforcable by the license, which
>
> It may not be enforcable by the license, but bu the Copyright holders
> of the code.
>
>> only covers interactive interfaces. Otherwise, it would make u-boot useless
>> for environments where interactive mode would interfere with other uses of
>> the serial port (or when no suitable device exists).
>
> Of course it must not interfere with such situations. We have
> standard ways to silence console output, and I did not mean to mess
> with these. But if there is console output, a "GPL" message would
> probably be a Good Thing.
Just to confirm, this was also my original intention. If we output an
"U-Boot ver. x.y.z" we can surely also output "U-Boot is Free Software
licensed under the GPL".
>> Personally, I'd rather stay far away from invoking any clauses of a
>> non-changeable license that dictate technical decisions such as which bytes
>> to include in the final image.
>
> The GPL does not dictate anything - you have always the freedom to
> write anything from scratch or buy the source code for any proprie-
> tary boot loader that comes under another license. But U-Boot *is*
> licensed under GPL, and this is what makes it strong. Over the years,
> and spending more and more time on stupid email discussions with
> companies who think they can ignore a "free" license (while being
> empatic with their own closed source stuff), I came to beliving that
> a clearly visible label "This box runs Free Software" is a really,
> really good idea.
Full ack.
Cheers
Detlev
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-06 7:52 [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] add 'license' command to u-boot commandline Harald Welte
2008-07-06 10:11 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-06 11:28 ` Harald Welte
2008-07-07 11:16 ` Detlev Zundel
2008-07-07 12:00 ` Stefan Roese
2008-07-09 14:30 ` [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] add 'license' command to u-boot?commandline Harald Welte
2008-07-09 14:42 ` Jerry Van Baren
2008-07-09 14:56 ` Harald Welte
2008-07-09 20:42 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-10 2:45 ` Jerry Van Baren
2008-07-10 10:51 ` Detlev Zundel
2008-07-10 11:08 ` Stefan Roese
2008-07-10 17:16 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2008-07-10 11:13 ` Harald Welte
2008-07-10 11:23 ` Jerry Van Baren
2008-07-10 11:26 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-07 14:53 ` [U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] add 'license' command to u-boot commandline Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-07 15:33 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2008-07-07 18:30 ` Scott Wood
2008-07-07 19:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-07-08 14:11 ` Detlev Zundel [this message]
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