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From: Ian Kent <ikent@redhat.com>
To: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Cc: Evan Hunt <ethanol@armory.com>,
	Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
	Bryan Henderson <bryanh@giraffe-data.com>,
	ams@gnu.org, P@draigbrady.com, util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: splitting util-linux (was: kill)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:32:28 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1166790748.4348.7.camel@raven.themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061222080721.GS5971@petra.dvoda.cz>

On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 09:07 +0100, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:45:53PM -0800, Evan Hunt wrote:
> > 
> > > As far as I can see, "look" is basically a lame grep.
> > > Is this something we really need?
> > 
> > However, you're right about it being lame.  It only searches at the
> > beginning of the line, making it useless for files that are sorted on
> > different fields, can only deal with lexical ordering, etc.
> 
>  Yes, the definition of "look" is pretty exact. Who do you think that
>  the tool should be work with any other type of files or with
>  a different ordering ? Now, it seems like right tool for right job.
> 
> > I'm fixing this, which is part of why I ended up in this conversation
> > in the first place; I want to put the improved version into miscutils.
> > 
> > > more -- still better-known than "less", sadly
> > 
> > Ah, a pet peeve of mine. :)
> > 
> > Why doesn't the 'less' package just install 'more' as a link to 'less'?
> 
>  because some distributions have the 'more' command in the root
>  filesystem (/bin) and the 'less' command in /usr/bin.

And because some people remember that stuff like this was done because
"/usr" may have been on a separate partition and this was the place to
put binaries that depended on a larger number of libraries, usually also
in "/usr/lib". Then in recovery situations such as single user mode only
"/" would be mounted. Same story with "/bin/sh" of course.

Those days may be behind us but I still think we should be able to boot
a minimal root filesystem for recovery, but perhaps I'm just old
fashioned.

>  But yes, I agree that the 'more' should be die in some future release.
> 
>     Karel
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-22 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <787b0d920612192242x3788f4bfh3be846d4188e3767@mail.gmail.com>
2006-12-20  8:57 ` kill (was: Re: util-linux: orphan) Karel Zak
2006-12-20 10:03   ` kill Pádraig Brady
2006-12-20 10:45     ` kill Karel Zak
2006-12-20 21:45       ` kill Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-12-20 23:55         ` kill Karel Zak
2006-12-21  4:10           ` kill Evan Hunt
2006-12-21 16:34             ` splitting util-linux (was: kill) Bryan Henderson
2006-12-21 21:53               ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22  6:12                 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-22  7:13                   ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22  9:06                     ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-22  7:23                   ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22  7:45                   ` Evan Hunt
2006-12-22  8:07                     ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22  8:45                       ` Evan Hunt
2006-12-22 11:03                         ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22 16:52                           ` Evan Hunt
2006-12-22 12:32                       ` Ian Kent [this message]
2006-12-22 10:24                   ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22 14:50                     ` Mark Rosenstand
2006-12-22 17:38                     ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-25 20:03                     ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-25 22:50                       ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22  6:44                 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22  7:52                   ` Karel Zak
2006-12-21 10:51           ` kill Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-12-21 11:39             ` kill Martin Mares
2006-12-21 15:30               ` kill Karel Zak
2006-12-21 16:50               ` kill Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-12-21 17:38                 ` kill Albert Cahalan
2006-12-22  1:37                 ` kill Ian Kent
2006-12-20 15:00     ` kill Ian Kent
2006-12-20 16:58     ` kill Albert Cahalan
2006-12-20 16:33   ` kill (was: Re: util-linux: orphan) Albert Cahalan
2006-12-20 21:12     ` Karel Zak
2006-12-21  2:32       ` Albert Cahalan

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