From: Ian Kent <ikent@redhat.com>
To: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Cc: Evan Hunt <ethanol@armory.com>,
Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
Bryan Henderson <bryanh@giraffe-data.com>,
ams@gnu.org, P@draigbrady.com, util-linux-ng@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: splitting util-linux (was: kill)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:32:28 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1166790748.4348.7.camel@raven.themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061222080721.GS5971@petra.dvoda.cz>
On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 09:07 +0100, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 11:45:53PM -0800, Evan Hunt wrote:
> >
> > > As far as I can see, "look" is basically a lame grep.
> > > Is this something we really need?
> >
> > However, you're right about it being lame. It only searches at the
> > beginning of the line, making it useless for files that are sorted on
> > different fields, can only deal with lexical ordering, etc.
>
> Yes, the definition of "look" is pretty exact. Who do you think that
> the tool should be work with any other type of files or with
> a different ordering ? Now, it seems like right tool for right job.
>
> > I'm fixing this, which is part of why I ended up in this conversation
> > in the first place; I want to put the improved version into miscutils.
> >
> > > more -- still better-known than "less", sadly
> >
> > Ah, a pet peeve of mine. :)
> >
> > Why doesn't the 'less' package just install 'more' as a link to 'less'?
>
> because some distributions have the 'more' command in the root
> filesystem (/bin) and the 'less' command in /usr/bin.
And because some people remember that stuff like this was done because
"/usr" may have been on a separate partition and this was the place to
put binaries that depended on a larger number of libraries, usually also
in "/usr/lib". Then in recovery situations such as single user mode only
"/" would be mounted. Same story with "/bin/sh" of course.
Those days may be behind us but I still think we should be able to boot
a minimal root filesystem for recovery, but perhaps I'm just old
fashioned.
> But yes, I agree that the 'more' should be die in some future release.
>
> Karel
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-22 12:32 UTC|newest]
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2006-12-20 8:57 ` kill (was: Re: util-linux: orphan) Karel Zak
2006-12-20 10:03 ` kill Pádraig Brady
2006-12-20 10:45 ` kill Karel Zak
2006-12-20 21:45 ` kill Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-12-20 23:55 ` kill Karel Zak
2006-12-21 4:10 ` kill Evan Hunt
2006-12-21 16:34 ` splitting util-linux (was: kill) Bryan Henderson
2006-12-21 21:53 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22 6:12 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-22 7:13 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22 9:06 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-22 7:23 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22 7:45 ` Evan Hunt
2006-12-22 8:07 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22 8:45 ` Evan Hunt
2006-12-22 11:03 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22 16:52 ` Evan Hunt
2006-12-22 12:32 ` Ian Kent [this message]
2006-12-22 10:24 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-22 14:50 ` Mark Rosenstand
2006-12-22 17:38 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-25 20:03 ` Albert Cahalan
2006-12-25 22:50 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22 6:44 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-22 7:52 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-21 10:51 ` kill Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-12-21 11:39 ` kill Martin Mares
2006-12-21 15:30 ` kill Karel Zak
2006-12-21 16:50 ` kill Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-12-21 17:38 ` kill Albert Cahalan
2006-12-22 1:37 ` kill Ian Kent
2006-12-20 15:00 ` kill Ian Kent
2006-12-20 16:58 ` kill Albert Cahalan
2006-12-20 16:33 ` kill (was: Re: util-linux: orphan) Albert Cahalan
2006-12-20 21:12 ` Karel Zak
2006-12-21 2:32 ` Albert Cahalan
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