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From: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel@suse.de>
Cc: util-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] uuid: implement uuid_generate_random_safe
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:15:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110617021517.GC29725@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1308232779-21018-2-git-send-email-ludwig.nussel@suse.de>

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 03:59:37PM +0200, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
> +int uuid_generate_random_safe(uuid_t out)
> +{
> +	int	num = 1;
> +	/* No real reason to use the daemon for random uuid's -- yet */

Note that amongst some distributions, there is a very strong
resistance against using the uuidd daemon.  Partially because it's
"yet another daemon", partially because any long-running daemon has to
get extra review/auditing because for potential security problems,
etc.

Also please note that there's only *one* user of the uuid library, the
proprietary SAP R/3 system, that generates enough uuids, and with a
high enough frequency, where "safety" has ever been an issue.  Most of
the time, people simply aren't generating uuid's at the rate of
thousands a second.  So I'm really not convinced it's a good idea to
assume that the uuidd daemon will *always* be installed, let alone be
running, and the wholesale deprecation of the existing interfaces
(which are compatible with interfaces used by a number of other
operating systems, BTW), just because there is this idea that the
exsting interfaces are "unsafe".  Really, they're not.

						- Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-17  2:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-16 13:59 [PATCH 1/4] uuidgen: fail if uuidd isn't running Ludwig Nussel
2011-06-16 13:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] uuid: implement uuid_generate_random_safe Ludwig Nussel
2011-06-16 15:54   ` Karel Zak
2011-06-17  2:15   ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2011-06-17  7:37     ` Ludwig Nussel
2011-06-20 11:45       ` Theodore Tso
2011-06-16 13:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] uuid: use new functions by default Ludwig Nussel
2011-06-20 10:35   ` Karel Zak
2011-06-16 13:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] update manpage Ludwig Nussel
2011-06-16 15:38 ` [PATCH 1/4] uuidgen: fail if uuidd isn't running Karel Zak
2011-06-17  2:07 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-06-20 10:45   ` Karel Zak
2011-06-20 12:18     ` Ludwig Nussel

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