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From: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
Cc: Phillip Susi <psusi@ubuntu.com>,
	Thomas Orgis <thomas-forum@orgis.org>,
	util-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: losetup -d --force for zombie loop devices?
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 09:35:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130114083513.GB16421@x2.net.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201301120029.29896.vapier@gentoo.org>

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:29:28AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Saturday 12 January 2013 00:13:12 Phillip Susi wrote:
> > On 01/11/2013 11:52 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > >> but my point was that what you are looking for is umount -f, not
> > >> umount -l.
> > > 
> > > and my point is that `umount -f` doesn't always work which means
> > > `umount -l` is sometimes the only way to remove a mount point.  an
> > > unresponsive remote or something is holding open a reference (which
> > > doesn't show up in `lsof -n`).
> > 
> > Right.  Forced unmounts aren't really implemented.  They need to be.
> > It isn't losetup that needs to be forcibly detached, but the filesystem.
> 
> would be nice if userland had visibility into all these handles that the 
> kernel has opened.  for example, with losetup, i think the only way is to 
> query the loop devices directly or sysfs ?  might be handy to at least teach 
> lsof to peek in there, but still sucks we have to do it subsystem by 
> subsystem.

 That's my wish to have in lsblk output a column with handlers counter
 that kernel has open for the device. Unfortunately this info is not
 exported by sysfs.

    Karel


-- 
 Karel Zak  <kzak@redhat.com>
 http://karelzak.blogspot.com

      reply	other threads:[~2013-01-14  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-17  8:03 losetup -d --force for zombie loop devices? Thomas Orgis
2012-04-17 14:58 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-04-17 21:02   ` Thomas Orgis
2012-04-30 20:03 ` Phillip Susi
2012-04-30 20:07   ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-01 15:23     ` Phillip Susi
2012-05-03  4:43       ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-03 14:29         ` Phillip Susi
2013-01-11 23:52           ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-12  0:54             ` Phillip Susi
2013-01-12  4:52               ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-12  5:13                 ` Phillip Susi
2013-01-12  5:29                   ` Mike Frysinger
2013-01-14  8:35                     ` Karel Zak [this message]

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