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From: Krister Johansen <kjlx@templeofstupid.com>
To: Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
Cc: util-linux@vger.kernel.org, Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
	systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	David Reaver <me@davidreaver.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] libblkid: fix spurious ext superblock checksum mismatches
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 15:13:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241118231352.GC1885@templeofstupid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZzvBgOP_skwId4ci@gardel-login>

On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mo, 18.11.24 12:35, Krister Johansen (kjlx@templeofstupid.com) wrote:
> 
> > Reads of ext superblocks can race with updates.  If libblkid observes a
> > checksum mismatch, re-read the superblock with O_DIRECT in order to get
> > a consistent view of its contents.  Only if the O_DIRECT read fails the
> > checksum should it be reported to have failed.
> >
> > This fixes a problem where devices that were named by filesystem label
> > failed to be found when systemd attempted to mount them on boot.  The
> > problem was caused by systemd-udevd using libblkid. If a read of a
> > superblock resulted in a checksum mismatch, udev will remove the
> > by-label links which result in the mount call failing to find the
> > device.  The checksum mismatch that was triggering the problem was
> > spurious, and when we use O_DIRECT, or even perform a subsequent retry,
> > the superblock is correctly read.  This resulted in a failure to mount
> > /boot in one out of every 2,000 or so attempts in our environment.
> >
> > e2fsprogs fixed[1] an identical version of this bug that afflicted
> > resize2fs during online grow operations when run from cloud-init.  The
> > fix there was also to use O_DIRECT in order to read the superblock.
> > This patch uses a similar approach: read the superblock with O_DIRECT in
> > the case where a bad checksum is detected.
> 
> Umpf. udev has a clearly defined protocol to comprehensively avoid
> such issues:
> 
> https://systemd.io/BLOCK_DEVICE_LOCKING
> 
> Partitioning tools should simply follow this logic, and udev and
> programs downstream from it will not even be tempted to operate with
> half-written superblocks, partition tables or such.
> 
> Hence, I personally am not convinced of that O_DIRECT approach. First
> of all, it only works on superblocks that have a useful checksum
> covering enough relevant data, and it can never really catch scenarios
> where a disk is comprehensively repartitioned, i.e. one or more fs and
> partition metadata changed at the same time...

I may have done a poor job of explaining this.  This is ext writing its
own superblock from the kernel, but reads seeing an potentially
inconsistent view of that write.  O_DIRECT causes us to seralize with
the locks ext4 holds when it writes the superblock, which prevents the
read from observing a partial update.

It's not necessarily the partitioning tools causing this, but any
filesystem level udpdate that modifies the contents of the superblock.

-K

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-18 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-18 20:35 [PATCH] libblkid: fix spurious ext superblock checksum mismatches Krister Johansen
2024-11-18 22:36 ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2024-11-18 23:13   ` Krister Johansen [this message]
2024-11-19  8:19     ` [EXT] " Windl, Ulrich
2024-11-19  8:15 ` [EXT] " Windl, Ulrich
2024-11-19 17:49   ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-19 23:59     ` Krister Johansen
2024-11-20  6:07       ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-21 10:44     ` Karel Zak
2024-11-21 15:55       ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-22  8:54       ` Krister Johansen

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