From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.station1.mxsweep.com ([212.147.136.149]:3079 "EHLO blue.mxsweep.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S964977AbWLTKG3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:06:29 -0500 Received: from blue.mxsweep.com (127.0.0.1) by blue.mxsweep.com (MlfMTA v3.2r1b3) id hh45ni0171sv for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:07:48 +0000 (envelope-from ) Message-ID: <45890A78.1030105@draigBrady.com> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:03:36 +0000 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E1draig_Brady?= MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karel Zak CC: Albert Cahalan , List util-linux-ng , "Alfred M. Szmidt" , Evan Hunt Subject: Re: kill References: <787b0d920612192242x3788f4bfh3be846d4188e3767@mail.gmail.com> <20061220085706.GH5971@petra.dvoda.cz> In-Reply-To: <20061220085706.GH5971@petra.dvoda.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: util-linux-ng-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Karel Zak wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:42:13AM -0500, Albert Cahalan wrote: >> Karel Zak writes: >> >>> I've originally thought about util-linux upstream fork, >>> but as usually an fork is bad step. So.. I'd like to start >>> some discussion before this step. >> ... >>> after few weeks I'm pleased to announce a new "util-linux-ng" >>> project. This project is a fork of the original util-linux (2.13-pre7). >> Well, how about giving me a chunk of it? I'd like /bin/kill please. We definitely need less version of kill: ubuntu: $ dpkg -S `which kill` procps: /bin/kill fedora: $ rpm -qf `which kill` util-linux-2.12p-9.3 fedora: $ type kill kill is a shell builtin $ tar tzf coreutils-6.2.tar.gz | grep kill coreutils-6.2/src/kill.c coreutils-6.2/man/kill.1 coreutils-6.2/man/kill.x > We can think about it. I'm not sure with this kind of changes in the > next 2.13 release. That release should be more about bug fixes and > code stabilisation. agreed. > > I'd like to do some consolidation in 2.14. I also need explore why > RHEL/FC uses the kill command from util-linux rather that from > procps. And Suse and Debian? On a similar note, there are utils in util-linux[-ng] that are not specific to linux (like look, cal etc.) There has been the proposal for a new miscutils project on the coreutils list: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2006-11/msg00086.html for which I am the proposed maintainer of. Possibly some of these non specific linux utils could be moved there? cheers, Pádraig.