From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: util-linux-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from mail-tul01m020-f174.google.com ([209.85.214.174]:48242 "EHLO mail-tul01m020-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755855Ab2ANRab (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:30:31 -0500 Received: by obcva7 with SMTP id va7so3307964obc.19 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:30:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F11BBB4.4030602@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:30:28 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: util-linux@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: getting a modern `more` References: <201201130128.49700.vapier@gentoo.org> <201201132008.20863.vapier@gentoo.org> <4F10F3D5.9080706@gmail.com> <201201140039.17340.vapier@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <201201140039.17340.vapier@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sender: util-linux-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 13 January 2012 22:17:41 Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> That said, if you want to spend the effort to update and maintain a >> program that duplicates functionality, than that's up to you. I just >> think you may want to be careful of NIH thinking. > > the work was already been done, and technically speaking, one could say that > everything other than "more" is NIH thinking ;). can you name a pager that is > older than "more" ? No, of course not. Please understand that I have no connection with the 'less' project. I don't know why it forked, but it too has been around since at least 1995 and appears to pre-date Linux (and Util-Linux). The website goes back to 'Version 290' in 1995. I've been working with computers since before Unix (and Linux) and know a little computing history. Before 'Glass TTYs' there were paper terminals and I suspect 'more' was designed with those paper terminals in mind. 'Less' appears to have been designed with terminals such as the VT100 in mind. Sometimes it's beneficial to redesign a program when something new comes along rather than patch an old design. -- Bruce