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From: Francis Moreau <francis.moro@gmail.com>
To: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Cc: util-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Weird behaviour with lsblk and freshly created loop device
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:45:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5405F446.2040202@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140902073020.GB21325@x2.net.home>

On 09/02/2014 09:30 AM, Karel Zak wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 09:03:45AM +0200, Francis Moreau wrote:
>> It seems that lsblk uses udev to get some block device metadata and asks
>> some others to the kernel. If so, it makes the whole process racy
>> because udev might not have handled the events sent by the kernel yet.
>>
>> I'm not sure why udev is used by default in the first place, what are
> 
>  * info from udev is accessible for non-root users
>  * it's better to scan devices only once on one place only
>  * udev is able to gather information from more sources (for example
>    libblkid does not provide WWN)
> 
>> the benefits ? Using libblkid, at least by default seems the right thing
>> to do.
>>
>> Otherwise maybe lsblk should do the equivalent of 'udevadm settle' to
>> handle correctly freshly created devices ?
> 
> That's question, now (because it's not hardcoded to lsblk) everyone is
> able to control this behavior, all you need is to add 'udevadm settle'
> to your use-case. 

The question is more why let the user do that ?

If lsblk reports the partitions, shouldn't it do that only when it's
sure to fully have retrieve the partition's metadata ?

BTW, is the user supposed to know that lsblk relies on udev or is this
implementation detail ?

Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-02 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-01 15:39 Weird behaviour with lsblk and freshly created loop device Francis Moreau
2014-09-01 15:40 ` Francis Moreau
2014-09-01 17:56 ` Karel Zak
2014-09-02  7:03   ` Francis Moreau
2014-09-02  7:30     ` Karel Zak
2014-09-02 16:45       ` Francis Moreau [this message]
2014-09-05  7:45         ` Karel Zak
2014-09-05  8:13           ` Francis Moreau
2014-09-01 19:41 ` Dale R. Worley
2014-09-02  6:54   ` Francis Moreau

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