From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: util-linux-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: from mail-oi0-f50.google.com ([209.85.218.50]:44404 "EHLO mail-oi0-f50.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750726AbaKYPgd (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:36:33 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f50.google.com with SMTP id a141so562230oig.23 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.75] (cpe-70-123-211-202.satx.res.rr.com. [70.123.211.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d6sm575663obq.4.2014.11.25.07.36.30 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 25 Nov 2014 07:36:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5474A1FD.1060607@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:36:29 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs MIME-Version: 1.0 To: util-linux@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: LUKS partition types, redux References: <546D0495.2030803@dasyatidae.net> <20141124113733.GC926@x2.net.home> <547343EA.6090606@ubuntu.com> <20141124154604.GA2610@x2.net.home> <54738D83.9010108@gmail.com> <20141125112615.GC2610@x2.net.home> In-Reply-To: <20141125112615.GC2610@x2.net.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sender: util-linux-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Karel Zak wrote: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 01:56:51PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Karel Zak wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 09:42:50AM -0500, Phillip Susi wrote: >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> On 11/24/2014 6:37 AM, Karel Zak wrote: >>>>> The current trend is to use partition type to define for what >>>>> purpose we want to use the partition (for example "this is /home") >>>>> independently on partition format. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't call this bone headed idea of redhat's a trend. Using >>>> partition table type codes to decide to auto mount in particular parts >>>> of the filesystem is such a brain damaged idea, those who thought it >>>> up need beaten with a clue-by-four and its use needs to be *strongly* >>>> discouraged. >>> >>> well, it's designed for auto-generated fstab-less systems like >>> containers/virt images, etc. I'm not big fan of this feature, but for >>> some use cases it makes sense. (And it's systemd upstream decision.) >>> >>> Anyway, use partition type for "usage" makes more sense than for "fs-type". >> >> Since when is systemd upstream of util-linux? > > Ah.. freedesktop guys introduced some new GUID and util-linux project > has accepted these identifiers (rather than interpret these IDs as > "unknown") ... as well as we accepted partition IDs for Apple stuff, > as well as we accepted Hurd patches, ports to freebsd, uClibc, > not-perfect zram stuff from kernel, stuff from SysVinit, and many > many many other things. > > I don't plan to be censor for another projects and apply any > emotional criteria. The reason why this project still alive is that > we are very friendly to arbitrary distributions and another projects. I have not problem with that. I just don't want to see a hard dependency on systemd like other projects have done. There are a lot of projects that are mutually dependent, but the term upstream sounded some alarm bells for me. I do think util-linux is managed in an excellent way. -- Bruce